Can someone please give me the Axis and Allies rulebook

We played A&A so much in the military that we began to have random games.

such as turning over control markers and rolling a die for each.

the odds fought the evens and so forth - so it could be 4 on 1 or some variations.

Russia vs everybody else - not good.

US and Japan vs the rest.

Hey it was a way to pass the time

Classic 8
Europe 8
Pacific 6

Agreed.  I have started 3 games of Revised.  The first just to check things out, the second my horrid showing against Trihero on Round 1, and my second a Turn 8 resignation as the Axis (in a no-bid game).

Revised has a far greater number of strategies available.  Is definitely better than Classic (saying a lot from someone with nearly 2 decades of the original under my belt).

I understand your desire to try new things.  That is why I did the Alternate Japan Naval Strats thread last month :-)  The main difference between yours and mine is pulling a higher number of your trannies away from Asia early on while I relied on just 1 tranny, and that only to get the Imperial Navy into the Atlantic via Panama.  Everything else stayed on the Russia push in order to get that stack of INF and Tanks to Russia ASAP.

Now If I can only figure out how to get Germany into Karelia and still have some good “punch” left on G5 or 6…

Right.  I knew that about the trannys.

The truth is that once upon a time I was very well versed in the game, but have not played in maybe 7 or 8 years.  I just wanted to check on the aircraft carrier thing, because I remember doing it, and that it was crucial to a virtually unstoppable winning variant of strategies by the allies.  The sequence of Britain going 3rd and the US 5th allows britain to build that carrier in turn 2 and for the US to land planes on it also in turn 2, therefore allowing units to be transported to the mainland by turn 3.

Anyways, it’s been too long for me to remember the strategy off the top of my head, but that is the key move.  Thanks!

like i said, i made it a long time ago…like 6 or 7 years ago.  :mrgreen: <----love this smiley

@Zakes:

The trick to screwing over Russia on the first round is to throw everything, literrally everything at Karelia on the very first round, and buying tons tanks so you can reinforce your front on the second turn.

I initially thought so as well.  But these folks showed me the implementation of US and UK strategies that I had never seen developed to the level they use them that preclude Germany from HOLDING Karelia to be able to build there in G2.

To take Karelia against the best defensive buildup that Russia can muster requires your Air Force.  But if you use your Air Force against Karelia, the UK navy is intact, and does an amphib in Karelia (2 BB’s, 3 fighters, 1 bomber, 2 INF, 1 tank) to kick Germany’s few remaining forces out in UK1.

Even if UK fails to kick Germany out of Karelia, what forces does Germany have left?  2 INF in Western, 4 INF and a tank in Eastern, 1-3 tanks in Karelia, 2 fighters, and a bomber; and their “total tank” build of 6 tanks in Germany.  That is a BEST case survival scenario.

Going forward against this, you have Russia building 7 (or more) INF per round, UK with a “full” transport fleet to use against Germany and the US also with a transport fleet that starts hitting Germany in US3.

Believe me, I used to agree whole heartedly with you, but failing to take out the Allied naval forces in the 1st and 2nd rounds is certain quick death for Germany.  And without them, you can;t crack Karelia.  Even if you can, you can;t crack it with enough force to threaten Russia the following round.

I don’t care about any changes as long as they benefit Great Britain. That’s my favorite country :smile: