Subs specials return once destroyers are removed as casualties?

Correct, Transports do have the "Chosen Last "-characteristic…

@ruelbook:

Chosen Last: Transports can be chosen as casualties only if there are no other eligible units. Normally this will occur when
only transports are left, but it can also occur under other circumstances. For example, air units attacking transports and
submarines will hit the transports because they can’t hit the submarines without a friendly destroyer present.

… that AAA does not have.

This is complicated stuff SC, but I believe I have this right:

In your example, if the US initiates combat in a sz in which the US has no destroyers, then J decides whether its subs submerge or surprise strike, not the US.

If the US had a destroyer present, then any subs in a sz in which combat is initiated would be involved. The US cannot decide to ignore them.

If the US placed units in a sz which contained only J subs, then the US can decide whether to initiate combat or ignore those subs. If that US movement occurs during non-combat then combat cannot be initiated.

@simon33:

So you’re saying an attacking fighter has moved 4 spaces to attack and the attack includes a CV which is its only landing spot, but the CV is taken as a hit and you then retreat? The fighter would be lost. So you wouldn’t do that. Take the fighter as a hit first and the CV lives to fight another day. Even if its only value is a 1/3 chance of hitting something.

Thank you very much! It is all clear now.

I thought since a destroyer nullifies a subs specials that meant it could see the sub and would have to engage in battle since the sub would not have an option to submerge.

I guess it comes down to the choice of the destroyer.

Thanks again wittmann.

My friends and I games this weekend should go much more smoothly with all this additional “verified” info.

Thank you craykirk and P@nther.

Yes.  Multi-national forces always defend together.

I actually prefer the opposite. No defense roll, can be taken as casualty at any point.

J2 conquest would mean UK messed up big time and china did not attack or japan let them take over some 2 IPC territories.