2015 League General Discussion Thread

@MrRoboto:

Shouldn’t it be 666 then?

It is 666 in reverse. True evil is never obvious.

According to G40 rules, if you can’t place all of your units, for whatever reason, during the place units phase, you get a cash refund and you get to choose which units are refunded.

Several different questions about this have been asked of Krieghund recently.  He explained the history of Revised and AA50, and why it is now a cash refund (instead of carrying over to next turn as in AA50).  Long story short, this system can be gamed hard, in somewhat rare instances.

It does not seem to me that the intent of the rule-writers was to allow for intentional over-buying and refunding.  If I was playing you face to face, I would stop you in the buy phase if you were purchasing more than you could possibly place (however, there is no rule expressly against this).

The big advantage you can potentially get from over-buying, is that you can decide to refund certain units after seeing how the dice go.  For example, buying carriers to make fighter/tac attacks legal.  Another example is buying transports but only placing them if the threats to the new transports are succesfully neutralized.

I think it’s clear the intent of the rules is that you purchase units before you know how the dice are going to fall.  This loophole allows you to effectively change your purchase after seeing your dice, which I think goes against the spirit of the game.

Default rule in league play is now officially this:
If you overpurchase, your OPPONENT will choose which units you are to refund.
This rule is needed for online play since normally a complete turn is finished before the opponent even sees it.  In face to face play, the opponent would be with you phase by phase and would presumably stop you from purchasing more units than you could possibly place.

If you and your opponent agree, you may play that over-purchasing is allowed.

AWESOME ruling that makes complete sense – thanks Gamer!

What’s going on around the league today?

We just had our first playoff result last night…

Looking forward to more game results to see how the standings start to shake out!

@Gamerman01:

What’s going on around the league today?

We just had our first playoff result last night…

Looking forward to more game results to see how the standings start to shake out!

What´s the issue with the standings?? I think they are just Ok  :-D

Lookin’ good, Juan

I’m curious whether there’s interest in a ladder league competition in 2015.  This would complement, not replace, Gamer’s ranking system.

What I have in mind is this.  Anyone who wants to participate makes it known.  All of the participants are then divided into groups of 4, based on Gamer’s PPG ranking.  The highest ranked group is the “champion’s division” and whoever wins that, for the cycle, is the current champion.  This allows some more competitive action in addition to the yearly playoff and an opportunity for those with bad luck in the playoffs to win some glory.

Each player would have 2 months (or perhaps 3 months) to play the other 3 players in their division.  For extra long games, we can form a committee responsible for deciding who has won or is winning a particular game, for the purposes of the ladder.

At the end of the 2 (or 3) month period, the top player in the division moves up the ladder to the next division, and the bottom player moves down.  The middle 2 stay in the division.  Tiebreakers are decided by head-to-head matchups.  With divisions of 4, tie-breakers shouldn’t be too much of a problem, because if 2 players go 2-1 then whoever won the head to head matchup wins the division.

I think this would help make Gamer’s PPG ratings more accurate as players with similar PPG would have incentive to play each other competitively.

The downside to ladder league systems (imho) is if one drops out, one is usually expected to start at or near the bottom when re-entering, and this can be a problem if alot of people are participating (meaning it could take several cycles before one gets to the top).  However, with the advantage of having the PPG ratings, perhaps we could forget about moving up and down in terms of divisions based on the cycle results, and instead simply redraw the divisions every cycle based on the latest PPG of those wanting to participate in the cycle.  This would allow people to participate, not participate, and then come back and participate again.

This is one way to go.  Another way is to go is to introduce some round-robins or tournaments into the Spring/Summer play time, so competitive minded players can participate then instead of waiting for the Fall/Winter.

@Cmdr:

I dunno, but I am starting to think the whole league is chicken. :P  No one has bothered to issue a challenge to me in my PM for at least a year now.  :evil:

Big bad girl scaring y’all off, huh?

Didn’t I recently give you about a 50 bid or something?

@Cmdr:

I dunno, but I am starting to think the whole league is chicken. :P  No one has bothered to issue a challenge to me in my PM for at least a year now.  :evil:

Big bad girl scaring y’all off, huh?

Well we decided to spare you the embarrassment of losing and let you remain undefeated even if it means you won´t be able to play a single game :lol:

Happy birthday, Boldfresh!  :mrgreen:

@Gamerman01:

Happy birthday, Boldfresh!  :mrgreen:

Ha thanks Gamer!

I would have used the flashing lights, but they are apparently not available any more?  :?

Where can I find the league rankings and playoff brackets? I have enjoyed following some of these games and would like to see the big picture.

Thanks

Great, Thomas, welcome!

In the league section of the website, look at the stickied threads.  There is one with the standings/rankings where you can find the link.

Thank you Gamerman. I must say I feel kind of silly. It was hiding in plain sight.  :-D

Does anyone else run into the problem of the save games being too big to post around round 10 or so?  Is there any way the forum settings could allow for bigger attachments?

Yes, I’ve had that problem before, Shin Ji.

I got an early release patch update from Veqryn a little while back that seemed to have fixed the problem.  Maybe this update is not ready for everyone yet?  You might want to ask Veq.

Meanwhile, 1 option is to edit a new map to your current game situation to get it small again.  Calcs and loading it up will be faster again, so there are benefits.