2015 League General Discussion Thread

@max334

Max-LvAow(X+12)G-1.tsvg

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 114 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in France Germans attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 6 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 2 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 114 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 114 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 115 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: battleship = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from Shensi to Kweichow Non Combat Move - ANZAC 3 fighters moved from Queensland to 46 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 carrier placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Combat Move - French 1 cruiser moved from 82 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from Southern France to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 10 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 24 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 24 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway 1 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria 1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 4 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 2 fighters moved from Japan to Northern Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Northern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 marine moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 battleships and 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Jehol to Northern Manchuria 2 tactical_bombers moved from Anhwe to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Northern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Tsinghai Combat - Japanese Battle in 43 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 43 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Midway Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in 56 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 56 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 bomber Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber Battle in Tsinghai Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese win, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Manchuria Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 6 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Northern Manchuria : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 5.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 6 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria 4 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 5.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Manchuria 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Northern Manchuria Japanese win, taking Northern Manchuria from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 6 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 artillery moved from Chahar to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 armour moved from Hopei to Szechwan 1 mech_infantry moved from Honan to Szechwan 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Jehol 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Jehol 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Jehol 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Jehol 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Kyushu to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Hopei 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tsinghai to Hopei Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Shantung 3 artilleries placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Malaya Japanese undo move 3. 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya 2 submarines placed in 7 Sea Zone 8 infantry placed in Japan Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 56 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 37 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 132 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 56 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 56 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 132 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 38 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 38 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 56 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 1 aaGun EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kyushu: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kyushu: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.00 Americans regular : -0.17 Japanese regular : 2.17 UK_Pacific regular : -0.17 ANZAC regular : 0.33 Russians AA : -0.50

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@nikola1975

I see no point in drawing this out. Nicely played

@mikawagunichi

42172-Mika-ITA-12.tsvg

Game History

Round: 12 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Tobruk 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus Italians take Northern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad Combat - Italians Battle in Tobruk Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Italians win, taking Tobruk from British with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 2 marines moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 marines, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tobruk to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Southern Italy 2 marines moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Algeria to Gibraltar 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia Place Units - Italians 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 97 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 94 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

A couple of considerations. I think J1 is really hard to do with the current set up, so that is probably something to consider for future games. It looks like a J1 will leave china for china (with the extra chinese set up power). I have not studied it carefully so I can be wrong

As for bids. Bids depend on so many things and I think maybe the game was not designed for online play with battle calculator? My friend and I never use bid when we play face to face. Instead we use beer and wine. In addition we dont use battle calculator either so all “calculations” are just a best guess. With these limitations it is very possible for the allies to win this game with the OOB set-up

@surfer hello I hope you had a great holiday season! I can’t commit to this at this time so I will concede. Congrats!