14L G40 DeadTom (Axis) vs MagicQ (Allies+13) LL

DeadTom

I’ll ask. If you need to, you can change your Russia turn.

DeadTom

I’m waiting for an answer in the rules thread, but I’m pretty sure the DOW on true neutrals is just a TripleA mechanic and is not part of the actual rules. You can change Russia’s turn if you have to, but your purchase and combats that you already rolled for must remain the same.

MagicQ

When I say DOW neutrals, I mean to attack some neutral land units. It doesn’t make sense if you DOW on neutrals and not attack them. I am not sure about same turn but I am pretty sure if USA attacks, all neutrals turn, then UK can fly across any neutrals land to attack.

DeadTom

@Boldfresh:

@DeadTom:

The DOW on true neutrals is just a TripleA thing, right? Does that have any affect at all if you DOW on a prior turn, but don’t actually attack anything? If you attack a territory on an earlier turn, can you fly over it freely?

tripleA handles the neutrals completely wrong - don’t trust anything it does. you can only fly over a neutral territory that you actually attacked. on the turn you attack any neutral, the rest of the neutrals, for all intents and purposes i believe, become like pro-the other side-neutrals. the one(s) you actually attack become friendly to the other side, meaning they can land aircraft there immediately, unless you took the territory of course.

DeadTom

The neutral status wouldn’t change. It’s still a pro-axis neutral if you attack it previously, subject to all the limitations that that implies. You can’t fly over pro-axis neutrals even if you had previously attacked them and failed.

MagicQ

Are you sure?

check this

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30776.15

DeadTom

It seems that that discussion is about Mongolia which has different rules.

MagicQ

c) You CAN fly over a neutral that has been attacked previously, because it is actually no longer a neutral even if it was not conquered. It has joined the opposing side. You can do this in the non-combat move immediately following the attack.

Sounds like if I attack Afganistan with USA fig in moscow, then UK air can fly over no matter what.

MagicQ

Bold are saying the same thing.

DeadTom

Ok, sorry, I’m not that familiar with the rules. That makes sense.

DeadTom

Ok, you are right. I’ll post Japan this evening when I’m home from work.

MagicQ

I was not familiar too. Actually I have never attacked neutrals before. This could be first time. :-)

DeadTom

It should be fun :-D

This game is getting a little crazy :mrgreen:

DeadTom

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
Japanese take Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC
1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
1 armour moved from Hunan to Kweichow
Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
1 armour moved from Kweichow to Anhwe

DeadTom

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
Japanese take Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC
1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
1 armour moved from Hunan to Kweichow
Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
1 armour moved from Kweichow to Anhwe

Combat - Japanese
Battle in Queensland
Battle in 46 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
Japanese win, taking Queensland from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Japanese
2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from 34 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from New Guinea to Philippines
1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to India
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to India
1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria
1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol
4 mech_infantrys moved from Hunan to Anhwe
2 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Philippines
1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China

Place Units - Japanese
3 aaGuns placed in India
3 infantry placed in Malaya
2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Japan
Japanese undo move 5.
Japanese undo move 3.
3 artilleries placed in French Indo China
1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs total
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

MagicQ

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern France
1 armour moved from Karelia to Vyborg
Russians take Vyborg from Germans
1 armour moved from Vyborg to Finland
1 destroyer moved from 29 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 46 Sea Zone

MagicQ

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern France
1 armour moved from Karelia to Vyborg
Russians take Vyborg from Germans
1 armour moved from Vyborg to Finland
1 destroyer moved from 29 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 46 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
Battle in 46 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
Battle in Southern France
Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
Americans win, taking Southern France from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
1 fighter moved from Southern France to Gibraltar
1 fighter moved from Southern France to Gibraltar
1 fighter moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to New South Wales
2 fighters moved from New Zealand to New South Wales
2 fighters moved from 29 Sea Zone to New South Wales
2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Line Islands to 29 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 29 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 29 Sea Zone to Line Islands
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 64 Sea Zone
1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 29 Sea Zone to Line Islands
3 fighters moved from Southeast Mexico to 29 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Western United States to 29 Sea Zone
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs

MagicQ

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
Chinese take Hunan from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
16 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow

Place Units - Chinese
3 infantry placed in Kweichow

Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 13 PUs total

MagicQ

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
2 bombers, 5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Volgograd to 99 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Finland to Novgorod
Russians take Novgorod from Germans
1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

MagicQ

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