Board question

Destroyers delay the removal of sub casualties, allowing them to fire back in their normal step even if they are hit by a sub.  However, both attacking and defending subs always fire in the Opening Fire step, so a defending sub will return fire even if it is hit, regardless of the presence of destroyers.  This is because fire within a step is simultaneous.  In effect, the presence of a destroyer only affects the ability of surface vessels to return fire when hit by subs.

You don’t have to take the fighter first.  It’s perfectly legal to take the carrier and leave the fighter stranded.  In order for the fighter’s move to not be a suicide mission, the only requirement is that it have a possible place to land (assuming the defender never hits).  Once the battle actually starts, it’s up to the owning player which casualties are taken.

The rules dealing with suicide missions address movement only.  There is nothing in the rules that indicates that casualties must be taken in a certain order to preserve fighters’ landing spaces.

Here’s a good thread on bidding

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=10438.0

Basically it boils down to how many units & IPC does it take to balance the game out.

Against a great player, you might need more…

I take it as I’m willing to play Axis for X IPC.

Also with heavy bombers, others use LHTR (Larry Harris Tournament Rules) where the most damage bmbs can do is limited to the total IPC value of the territory, some use 2X.  Yes, heavy bombers using OOB (Out of the Box) rules seem unfair but it’s still possible to win if you can go after the bmbs.  Deny the bmbs places to land, if all US/UK are buying bmbs than there is less ground troops, etc, etc.  Finding the right balance, but even than I would suggest going with the bid, and a few minor changes.  Take a look above LHTR is stickied.

Good luck and Good gaming!

Brilliant, logical and brief. Many thanks for the explanation.

Yes, that is the way it works.

You can land Fighters or Bombers in any territory your alliance held at the start of your move.

@Amon:

i know its odd

but

is it allowed to remove( some )of your units from the board

i mean to simply destroy them

or is it against the rules

thanks :lol:

i know its odd

but

is it allowed to just put (some) of your units from the board

i mean to simply create them

or is it against the rules

thanks :lol:

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Generally, if it ain’t in the rules, you can’t do it.  You could HOUSERULE it, but that would be a houserule.

I still like my cat bioweapon weapons development research houserule.

@Ranor:

LHTR 2.0 says to this:

“If the attacker has not withdrawn all units, defending submarines may submerge.”

This implies defending subs submerge after the attacker has chosen to either retreat (or submerge) or not.

(page 16 - Condition B) Defender withdraws subs by submerging)

Page 14 is more to the point.

It categorically states that the Attacker choses to press the attack or retreat BEFORE defending submarines chose to submerge or remain surfaced.

another way of doing this is to allocated an attacker chosen hit from any artillery or fighters rolling a one, and allowing tank hits to go against enemy armor or artillery first.

This is balanced and its been tested in my own games, but its an old idea since the 80’s.

Bombers cant do this because they are carpet bombers, while the other units are designed for targeted attacks.

You can have a sub do this on ones too as well as the battleship.

At least it would be easy to remember.