World Cup!

Mallery, I was suggesting that Indian innovation is superior to that of Chinas, not that it is superior to the US.

The US may have some old ghost towns, but they don’t build brand new cities on credit for a 1/4 of million people that are never inhabited.  Or the worlds largest shopping mall that is 99% unleased.  Only a centrally planned corrupt government can pull this off.

I knew this was going to be Monty Python, but figured it would be from “And Now for Something Completely Different”.

@M36:

Speaking of Korea though, it is true that South Korea is an immensely prosperous nation, while North Korea languishes in poverty. South Korea became “Americanized” and now places that where once rice patties and dusty mountain roads are prosperous metropolises. ( I know this because my sister is serving in Korea with the Army engineers) Without our intervention, South Korea would have been conquered, and would be no better off than North Korea is under the heel of communism. The Korean conflict was one of our more noble military ventures.

Sure, military means money.  S. Vietnam had a huge jump in economy when we were there that mostly collapsed after we left.  It would happen no matter where we go.

However, the state of Korea today has less to do with them being dirty communists, and more with the disintegration of the USSR and a horrible famine during the 90’s.  They simply could not support themselves because their primary trading partner disappeared and was unable to supply what they needed, only to be subjected to a series of disastrous floods and drought.  Of course, it’s not helped by their military-oriented economic policy, but we do similar and still sustain ourselves (but we’ve got the goods).

But we took a number of casualties in Korea, was it worth that sacrifice of American lives? As a Marine I believe we are all expendable to accomplish our mission, but the call is yours. How many of us will you sacrifice to accomplish the objective? You should be willing to sacrifice all of us. That kind of resolve no longer exists in America.

Tough to say.  As an elite group of fighters, I wouldn’t send Marines in frivolously.  When it comes to Korea, we are exactly where we were after WW2 (except no skirmishes and such).  So did it do any good?  I guess so, primarily economically.  Are your lives worth promoting the economy of another country?  Are anyone’s?  Especially when that country actually competes with our own?

But here’s the thing: we installed an unpopular dictator in S. Korea that resigned.  A military coup followed that was just was tyrannical and ruthless.  It really goes unnoticed because the economy surged and we “saved” them from communism.  But I don’t think we accomplished all that much.

I’m not sure when or where you guys should be deployed.  Hopefully never, but that’s a pipe dream.

Well, most everyone was riveted to the World Cup.  I have friends in India who were staying up well into the night to watch games, and they said pretty much everyone was doing the same time.  And Africa - are you kidding?  You should have seen the crowds in Abidan over the Cote d’Ivoire team.  :-)

And oh you poor uninitiated soccer wannabe/newbie.  Do you not know the joys of watching coordinated offense and stunning feats of athletic ability?  Here just watch this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tD-h_BDmQ6w&search=zidane volley

:-D

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Clausewitz would be quite astonished.

touche! :wink:

Deviant:Scripter would it bother you if somebody praised Satan in a school speech bother you?? What gods should be allowed in school speeches?? Who decides what gods or religions can be talked about in public.

Hell yes it would bother me. :evil:

Why should I be forced to listen to some idiot preach to me?

Since when is MENTIONING the word “God” preaching?

preach - To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with. (Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary)

Nobody is forcing you to accept or even to agree with it.

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hey welcome back tm how was sandiego?