Sealion? Is there a perfict set up?

Just to get a complete picture:
According to some earlier ‘studies’ I came to the conclusion that it is possible if Russia moves forward RU2,
that GE3 can destroy them instead of doing Sea Lion (bad mistake, Stalin). Russia has to wait moving forward untill after GE3 went Sea Lion of course and it has to buy fast units for this RU2 (mostly MECH).
This is possible even if GE1 or GE2 produced only land untis and invested ~70 IPCs into ships. The only question left for me, was if GE would subsequently be able to take Moscow as well. Apparently it can be done after this overeager Russian forward ‘gambit’.

Buying ships worth 2 complete rounds of production (total 98 IPCs) will  turn into a disaster for the axis if they also invade London. Almost single-handedly by the Russians! I’ve seen that too many times already to think GE can stop that.
No info on the outcome if GE produces this quantity of ships and still forgegoes the attack on London, but it seems to me that Russia and the UK are only to blame for themselves if Moscow still falls after these course of events (too much ships for GE).

In my experience (and assuming Russia does not make the mentioned mistake), it is already impossible for GE to take Moscow after spending ~50 IPCs on ships. Heck, even if they spend 100% on land units dedicated to march onto Moscow (although Russia then requiring heavy aid from the western allies), but that should be in a different thread and let’s not forget the dice can still ruin both sides. Although Moscow has a huge advantage in the luck-table…

Well, get a load of this game

Germany attacks London and the Russian’s forward stack in East Poland at the same time (out of necessity)
Germany gets good dice and wins both battles, and Axis player resigns in round 4

@Gamerman01:

Well, get a load of this game

Germany attacks London and the Russian’s forward stack in East Poland at the same time (out of necessity)
Germany gets good dice and wins both battles, and Axis player resigns in round 4

NSW was in axis favor but barely, only 60%.

IIRC about 8 battles all had to go the Axis way to win that game, and he got through about 6 of those hoops

To just look at NSW and say 60% is to really oversimplify the situation

Wait, let me get this straight (I cannot read AAA-files)…

Germany WON both battles and still gave up (Axis resigned)?
And out of curiousity: why was it a necessity to attack Russia? Eastern Europe otherwise completely undefendable?

@ItIsILeClerc:

Wait, let me get this straight (I cannot read AAA-files)…

Germany WON both battles and still gave up (Axis resigned)?
And out of curiousity: why was it a necessity to attack Russia? Eastern Europe otherwise completely undefendable?

Yes, you have it straight, Germany won both battles, but with only a tank remaining on London
Eastern Europe was going to be a problem either way.  Too bad you can’t look at the file.  Maybe you should download Triple A?

yeah I haven’t used AAA yet. I really prefer the board on the table with the plastic pieces and all. For filereading it might actually come in handy…

Yes it would -

www.triplea.sourceforge.net

Been trying to install TripleA but… nvm…

The installer automatically diappears/is removed from my desktop immediately after the download is completed without any form of inteaction. Repeatedly. Possibly a ‘feature’ of my security program but I don’t want to download anything with it turned off, so I guess too bad for AAA…

Turn off the security program and download it again.  It’s safe.

Or download it from a different computer and transfer the file to your precious one  :wink:

@Gamerman01:

IIRC about 8 battles all had to go the Axis way to win that game, and he got through about 6 of those hoops

To just look at NSW and say 60% is to really oversimplify the situation

I can understand that it was probably your only real chance at winning.  If things were too rough everywhere else, then I would of gone for it too.

I was the Allies, in the driver’s seat  :-)

@Gamerman01:

Turn off the security program and download it again.  It’s safe.

Or download it from a different computer and transfer the file to your precious one  :wink:

Yeeeessssss, my precioussssss ;-).

Very interesting game.  I love the way you attacked Russia at the same time, lol

Although I don’t think I would try a sealion after watching Italy’s turn 1.  They got no hits in the first round of combat. Lost their entire air force and navy except 1 TR which was unguarded.  That would require more airpower from Germany to support Italy and there is no Italian bomber left to bomb Britain’s airbase. But I still think at this point you could pull it off just very risky based on Italy.

The major problem was when you had Japan declare war on the allies on turn 2.  I think keeping USA out of the game would have help you tremendously.

Again, it wasn’t me.  I was the Allies.  :-)

The Axis player was Wheatbeer, one of the most active league players.  He usually takes the Axis, and favors Sealion attacks.  He usually wins with the Axis.  He is currently ranked #1 in the 2014 league, and played in the 2013 league playoffs.

Indeed, he was 30-12 as Axis last year and is 12-3 with them this year.