Yeaaa, it may take an extra round or two. :cry:
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Combat Move - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
Turn Complete - Russians
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 85 Sea Zone to Brazil
19 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
1 fighter moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone
12 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
Intercept?
no.
Rolling for which 2 got AAed 1 or a 2 means it was one of the ones headed to the harbor. Otherwise just the factory.
Rolls: 1@12; Total Hits: 11@12: (5)
@Shin:
Rolling for which 2 got AAed 1 or a 2 means it was one of the ones headed to the harbor. Otherwise just the factory.
I disagree with this. You should have mentioned the fact that they were heading towards the harbor ánd the factory. Seems important.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 85 Sea Zone to Brazil
19 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
1 fighter moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone
12 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
Combat - Japanese
Battle in 17 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 fighter
Americans defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
Battle in Persia
Japanese attack with 19 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
Americans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
Japanese win, taking Persia from Americans with 19 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Battle in Brazil
Air Battle in United Kingdom
Japanese attacks with 12 units heading to United Kingdom
Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
2 bombers killed by AA
Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 4,5,5,6,6,5,4,4 and causes: 20 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,4 and causes: 6 damage to unit: harbour
Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 26 damage total. Damaged units is as follows: factory_major = 20, harbour = 6
Cleaning up after air battles
Non Combat Move - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Axis from Argentina: 4 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Axis to Argentina: 4 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Axis from Argentina: 4 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Argentina: 4 infantry
EDIT: Japanese takes Argentina from Neutral_Axis
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
10 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
1 armour moved from French West Africa to 83 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from 85 Sea Zone to Argentina
Japanese take Argentina from Neutral_Axis
EDIT: 1 armour moved from 85 Sea Zone to Argentina
1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
2 transports moved from 83 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from French Equatorial Africa to 82 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from French Equatorial Africa to 82 Sea Zone
2 armour and 2 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to 70 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from French Equatorial Africa to 82 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Rhodesia to South West Africa
1 fighter moved from 17 Sea Zone to Japan
Place Units - Japanese
1 bomber placed in Japan
1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
3 armour placed in Union of South Africa
Turn Complete - Japanese
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,5,2,4,6,3,4,2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,5,6,5,1
Japanese collect 25 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs total
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Oh? Isn’t that how we did it the last few times?
Or you mean for the intercept?
Truthfully, I’m very sleepy right now. I could be missing something obvious, but I thought you made the choice of where to attack after the air battle, don’t you?
Page 17 of the Europe Rulebook seems to back me up.
“After the air battle is complete, or if there were no
defending fighter interceptors, surviving fighter escorts
are considered to have retreated. They don�t participate
in the actual bombing raid, are not subject to antiaircraft
fire, and will remain in the territory until the Noncombat
Move phase. Any surviving attacking bombers carry out
the bombing raid. If the territory offers more than one
target, the bombers may be divided into groups, and each
assigned a specific target”
So it seems the order of operations is the same way it works in TripleA, right?
There’s also this earlier on the same page:
“To conduct a bombing raid, the attacking player moves
his or her bombers to the territory on the map containing
the target(s).”
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Politics - British
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for Chinese from 41 to 21
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Purchase Units - British
British repair 4 damage on 4 harbours; Remaining resources: 21 PUs;
British buy nothing; Remaining resources: 21 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
British take French Equatorial Africa from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya
British take Kenya from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
British take Belgian Congo from Japanese
3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
Combat - British
Battle in 111 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 fighter
Germans defend with 13 transports
13 transports owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 91
Casualties for Germans: 13 transports
Non Combat Move - British
1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
3 aaGuns moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
Turn Complete - British
British collect 21 PUs; end with 42 PUs total
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :
Queensland : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Victoria : 1 flag
Northern Territory : 1 flag
New Zealand : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
New South Wales : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
South Australia : 1 flag
Western Australia : 1 flag
Solomon Islands : 1 flag
New Guinea : 1 flag
Belgian Congo : 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 13 infantry
Iceland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Quebec : 1 factory_minor
Trans-Jordan : 3 aaGuns and 28 infantry
Gibraltar : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
Egypt : 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Kenya : 1 infantry
Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
United Kingdom : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 7 infantry
French Equatorial Africa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Syria : 1 flag
Sierra Leone : 1 flag
Spain : 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 79 / 104
Russians : 3 / 0
Japanese : 30 / 32
Americans : 95 / 126
Chinese : 20 / 21
British : 21 / 42
UK_Pacific : 10 / 0
Italians : 15 / 23
ANZAC : 0 / 0
French : 0 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 1200
Neutral_Axis : 4 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 6 / 0
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 3 to 1
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
4 armour, 5 artilleries, 20 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Spain
I think I’ll need an OOL here. I hit you 7 times.
Well, I need to shut my computer down, so I’m going to roll it through with the standard units lost. If I win, it won’t matter. If I don’t, we can roll it out here later.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 35
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 3 to 1
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
4 armour, 5 artilleries, 20 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Spain
Combat - Italians
Battle in Spain
Italians attack with 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 20 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
British defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Americans defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 11 infantry
Italians win, taking Spain from Americans with 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Italians: 3 artilleries, 20 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
Casualties for Americans: 4 aaGuns, 4 artilleries and 11 infantry
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 bomber moved from Spain to Southern Italy
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
Place Units - Italians
2 fighters placed in Southern Italy
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
And as it turns out, all is well.
I’m off to bed - see you in about 8 :-)
@Shin:
And as it turns out, all is well.
I’m off to bed - see you in about 8 :-)
Actually that doesn’t matter. If you don’t use max defense, then the defender can always ask for a re-roll.
Ah, is that the accepted protocol? Good to know. There’s always a balance between speed and politeness to be struck.
Probably just as well this game is running a bit longer, since Gamerman is still deciding on the final Pacific VCs.
And did Panama as a European VC happen? I need to check the document again.
@Shin:
Ah, is that the accepted protocol? Good to know. There’s always a balance between speed and politeness to be struck.
Probably just as well this game is running a bit longer, since Gamerman is still deciding on the final Pacific VCs.
And did Panama as a European VC happen? I need to check the document again.
No, because I decided to keep the European map with the same Victory Cities, and adding 3 to the Pacific makes them equal at 11. 11 cities, of which Axis much capture 8 to win. Now they are equal, and it will be beautiful.
I want to name cities by world importance (because that is they way they all were out of the box), and want to add Malaya (Singapore), Manchuria, and Java (Jakarta). It will take more playtesting to decide (with the major changes to India/Australia, some giving advantage to Allies, some taking away), but I would consider moving a VC from Phillipines to New Zealand. New Zealand would be much easier to take and hold than NSW, though.
Still, giving the Allies more chances to disrupt the victory (Malaya, Java, Manchuria) does work to offset. One of these territories only need to be captured for a moment to reset the clock. Don’t forget other changes can be made. VC conditions may actually be easier than 2nd edition (not having to go get NSW or Hawaii) but other changes can be made as well. Like reducing Japanese aircraft and/or land presence on China at game start a little bit more.
We won’t know until we play more
@Shin:
There’s also this earlier on the same page:
“To conduct a bombing raid, the attacking player moves
his or her bombers to the territory on the map containing
the target(s).”
Right, this means you’re committing to the TERRITORY, not the facility target. Facility targets are chosen after the air battle.
So Shin Ji is correct, the defender must make the decision about interceptors without knowing what facilities are being targeted. Triple A does it wrong.
