If you don’t know whether a tactical bomber or a bomber needs to die, roll a die on the forum. Even/uneven 2 bombers die and otherwise it is the other situation.
Oh. It just let me pick. Aren’t all AA shots resolved at the same time anyway?
If it’s an issue, I can redo - but we’d have to redo the AA too, wouldn’t we?
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 15
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 6 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain
1 bomber moved from Paulau Island to 42 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Philippines to 41 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Philippines to 43 Sea Zone
5 bombers moved from Philippines to India
4 fighters moved from Burma to India
1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
Combat - Japanese
Battle in 41 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in 42 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in 43 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in New Britain
Air Battle in India
Japanese attacks with 10 units heading to India
Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
Strategic bombing raid in India
1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
Bombing raid in India rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
Bombing raid in India rolls: 7,6,8 and causes: 15 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in India causes 21 damage total. Damaged units is as follows: airfield = 6, factory_major = 15
Cleaning up after air battles
Non Combat Move - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these British owned units to: airfield = 5
EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these UK_Pacific owned units to: factory_major = 15
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
4 bombers moved from India to Burma
4 fighters moved from India to Burma
1 bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Burma
1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Burma
1 bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Burma
1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Burma
3 armour moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
3 armour moved from Malaya to Yunnan
4 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan
3 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Burma
4 fighters moved from Burma to Yunnan
11 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 9 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
4 artilleries, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 9 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
4 artilleries moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
Place Units - Japanese
3 armour placed in Malaya
3 armour placed in French Indo China
9 infantry placed in Japan
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
@Shin:
Oh. It just let me pick.� Aren’t all AA shots resolved at the same time anyway?
If it’s an issue, I can redo - but we’d have to redo the AA too, wouldn’t we?
Not at all. AA is supposed to be rolled for each installation separately. Which is why we have to roll AA using forum dice if we attack multiple installations. However since you already rolled the dice in triple A, they count. As of right now there are two solutions. The easiest would be to use forum dice and roll a single die. 1,3,5 would mean a tactical bomber and a bomber would die and 2,4 and 6 would mean 2 bombers would die or the other way around. It is a simple and effective solution. So two planes are going to die still.
Oh, OK. This has never come up for me before, actually.
What is the roll command here?
Rolls: 1@6 ; Total Hits: 11@6: (5)
However the ‘:’ after the 6 should be right behind it. Then you get the following:
Rolls: 1@6; Total Hits: 11@6: (2)
@Nozdormu:
However the ‘:’ after the 6 should be right behind it. Then you get the following:
let me try again:
;aaa 1@6;
and replace ; with :
OK! Like you said, odds mean a Tac bomber dies and nothing changes. Even means that the Tac lives (and the Airfield takes one more hit), but one more bomber dies. I suppose we could roll to see which bomber gets hit later if we need to.
Rolls: 1@6; Total Hits: 11@6: (6)
Excellent! Then we can just play on. The turn I posted stands.
Or not. I swear that was odd a second ago. Hrm.
OK, rolling a 1d4. 1 means the Bomber attacking the airfield foes down, and the airfield is undamaged. 2-4 means we ignore the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd hits on the factory.
Rolls: 1@4; Total Hits: 11@4: (3)
OK. The Factory takes one less hit, but it’s still at max damage. I’ll do a quick edit and get the thing up again.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 15
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 6 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain
1 bomber moved from Paulau Island to 42 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Philippines to 41 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Philippines to 43 Sea Zone
5 bombers moved from Philippines to India
4 fighters moved from Burma to India
1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
Combat - Japanese
Battle in 41 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in 42 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in 43 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 bomber
British defend with 1 transport
Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for British: 1 transport
Battle in New Britain
Air Battle in India
Japanese attacks with 10 units heading to India
Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
Strategic bombing raid in India
1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
Bombing raid in India rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
Bombing raid in India rolls: 7,6,8 and causes: 15 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in India causes 21 damage total. Damaged units is as follows: airfield = 6, factory_major = 15
Cleaning up after air battles
Non Combat Move - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these British owned units to: airfield = 5
EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these UK_Pacific owned units to: factory_major = 15
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
4 bombers moved from India to Burma
4 fighters moved from India to Burma
1 bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Burma
1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Burma
1 bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Burma
1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Burma
3 armour moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
3 armour moved from Malaya to Yunnan
4 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan
3 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Burma
4 fighters moved from Burma to Yunnan
11 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 9 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
4 artilleries, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 9 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
4 artilleries moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
Place Units - Japanese
3 armour placed in Malaya
3 armour placed in French Indo China
9 infantry placed in Japan
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Burma: 1 bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Yunnan: 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these British owned units to: airfield = 6
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 15
Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
British take Syria from Italians
3 artilleries moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
10 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
I am buying 6 infantry and 3 transports with the British.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 15
Purchase Units - British
British buy 6 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;
Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific repair 10 damage on 10 factory_majors; Remaining resources: 18 PUs;
UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
British take Syria from Italians
3 artilleries moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
10 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
Combat - British
Battle in Iraq
British attack with 3 artilleries and 10 infantry
Italians defend with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 factory_minor
British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 10 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 3/13 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 artilleries in Iraq, round 2 : 1/4 hits
1 infantry owned by the British and 3 artilleries owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 9 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 2/12 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Iraq, round 3 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
British win, taking Iraq from Italians with 3 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
Casualties for British: 2 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 3 artilleries
Non Combat Move - British
4 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
3 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
3 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
3 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
3 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
Place Units - British
2 transports placed in 109 Sea Zone
British undo move 1.
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 109 Sea Zone: 1 transport
EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 4 to 0
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
2 transports placed in 109 Sea Zone
3 infantry placed in Egypt
3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
Turn Complete - British
British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
Place Units - UK_Pacific
1 armour and 4 infantry placed in India
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 34 to 39
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total
Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 4 infantry
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for UK_Pacific from 27 to 22
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :
India : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 5 fighters, 1 harbour and 30 infantry
Borneo : 1 infantry
Queensland : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
Victoria : 1 flag
Northern Territory : 1 flag
New Zealand : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
New South Wales : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 5 infantry
South Australia : 1 flag
Western Australia : 1 flag
Solomon Islands : 1 flag
New Guinea : 1 flag
Java : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Belgian Congo : 3 infantry
Iceland : 1 airfield
Quebec : 1 factory_minor
Gibraltar : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
Egypt : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 19 infantry
Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
Scotland : 1 airfield
Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 3 infantry
Rhodesia : 3 infantry
Syria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Ethiopia : 1 flag
Sierra Leone : 1 flag
109 Sea Zone : 3 transports
Iraq : 1 flag, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 8 infantry
79 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
Northwest Persia : 1 flag
Persia : 1 flag
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 58 / 79
Russians : 22 / 32
Japanese : 45 / 45
Americans : 53 / 74
Chinese : 8 / 10
British : 34 / 39
UK_Pacific : 27 / 22
Italians : 17 / 33
ANZAC : 0 / 0
French : 4 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 1200
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 15 / 0
Dice Statistics:
Total
1 was rolled 5 times
2 was rolled 7 times
3 was rolled 4 times
4 was rolled 4 times
5 was rolled 6 times
6 was rolled 4 times
Average roll : 3,367
Median : 3,000
Variance : 0,276
Standard Deviation : 0,525
Total rolls : 30
British Combat
1 was rolled 3 times
2 was rolled 7 times
3 was rolled 3 times
4 was rolled 4 times
5 was rolled 5 times
6 was rolled 3 times
Average roll : 3,400
Median : 3,000
Variance : 0,542
Standard Deviation : 0,736
Total rolls : 25
Italians Combat
1 was rolled 2 times
3 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 1 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3,200
Median : 3,000
Variance : 1,750
Standard Deviation : 1,323
Total rolls : 5
Well, I’m off to bed. Gotta give my next move some real thought. Night (or whatever it is where you are). :)
OK, I think I saw a few questions that I need to answer
Flying tiger dice would be rolled with the air battle in the case of SBR. If no interceptors are sent up, then it would just be flying tiger dice.
I think flying tigers should hit on a “1” like interceptors and not on a “2” like kamikazes. Maybe have 6-8 chits. What do you guys think?
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 15
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 destroyer and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
Place Units - Italians
1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 95 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
OK, I think I saw a few questions that I need to answer
- Maximum damage on a medium complex is 10, yes
- Flying tigers can be used against SBR, yes
- Attacker always chooses casualties from flying tiger hits. They cannot be targeted by the defender the way kamikazes are
- Triple A doesn’t do SBR correctly against multiple facilities because it fires all AA at once. It looked like one of you knew that and I trust it has been resolved satisfactorily
Flying tiger dice would be rolled with the air battle in the case of SBR. If no interceptors are sent up, then it would just be flying tiger dice.
I think flying tigers should hit on a “1” like interceptors and not on a “2” like kamikazes. Maybe have 6-8 chits. What do you guys think?
Chits and hit depends on the amount of planes the flying tigers represent and how many planes a single fighter, tactical bomber or bomber represents.
@Nozdormu:
Chits and hit depends on the amount of planes the flying tigers represent and how many planes a single fighter, tactical bomber or bomber represents.
Yes, and from a purely gameplay perspective, I think they need to hit at 2, or else they become irrelevant. At 2, they’re scary - you have to factor them into your attack plans. At 1, who cares? Maybe all five will hit one plane, maybe not. Pointless. And anytime you have to stop the action to ask something of your opponent, it should be something that meaningfully affects the game.
