14L G40 ArtofWar1947 (Axis) vs JWW (Allies + 10)

I thought you would have attacked with Japan this turn……

@ArtofWar1947:

My understanding of the political rules is that an unprovoked Japanese attack on UK or ANZAC would have allowed the U.S.to declare war on any or all Allies.

I am curious about the U.S. transport in SZ 102, not that it seems to make any difference. My understanding of the rules is that the U.S. can have warships in the zone for long-range patrols, but not transports.

you are correct, the usa atlantic fleet is stuck where it is until next turn…

I need to review this next usa/uk turn…very important. It might take me a little time, especially with the holiday.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
            2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 50 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 30 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
            Note to player Americans: America has joined the Allies, and declared war on the Axis!
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Philippines : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    26 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters
    25 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    54 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Central United States : 1 factory_minor
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    102 Sea Zone : 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport
    64 Sea Zone : 3 submarines and 2 transports
    101 Sea Zone : 1 armour, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 56
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 28 / 38
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 10 / 8
    British : 26 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 24
    Italians : 16 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 18
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                  Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
                  Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                  Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
                  Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
            1 fighter and 14 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 14 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Kweichow : 1 infantry
    Hopei : 1 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 fighter and 16 infantry
    Chahar : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 56
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 26 / 38
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 12 / 14
    British : 26 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 24
    Italians : 16 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 18
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Tanganyika Territory
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq

forgot one combat move for the UK…I will repost the UK combat moves…

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Tanganyika Territory
            1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 3

Politics - British
            British takes Political Action: Political Action British To War With Japanese
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Tanganyika Territory
            1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in Formosa
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British , 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win, taking Formosa from Japanese with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British retreated to Northwest Persia
                Neutral_Axis win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tanganyika Territory
                British attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tanganyika Territory
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Tanganyika Territory, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tanganyika Territory, round 3 :  0/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tanganyika Territory
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the British retreated to Rhodesia
                Italians win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Kwangtung: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Celebes: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Rhodesia
            1 fighter moved from Tanganyika Territory to Rhodesia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
            1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 98 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
            1 bomber moved from Iraq to India
            1 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Belgian Congo
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from India to Burma

Place Units - British
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6,5,1,6,5,1,2,2,4
            UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :

Formosa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Burma : 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 20 infantry
    India : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Malaya : 1 harbour
    Kwangtung : 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Sumatra : 1 flag
    20 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Belgian Congo : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Rhodesia : 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    Morocco : 1 fighter
    Tobruk : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    76 Sea Zone : 1 battleship
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    Eire : 1 flag
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Persia : 1 flag
    98 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 56
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 25 / 38
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 12 / 14
    British : 26 / 26
    UK_Pacific : 25 / 26
    Italians : 16 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 18
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 7 times
            2 was rolled 7 times
            3 was rolled 5 times
            4 was rolled 5 times
            5 was rolled 8 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 3.474
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 0.216
        Standard Deviation : 0.465
        Total rolls : 38

Null / Other
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.700
        Median : 4.500
        Variance : 0.889
        Standard Deviation : 0.943
        Total rolls : 10

Neutral_Axis Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 4.333
        Median : 6.000
        Variance : 2.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.581
        Total rolls : 3

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1.500
        Median : 1.500
        Variance : 2.000
        Standard Deviation : 1.414
        Total rolls : 2

British Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 0.267
        Standard Deviation : 0.516
        Total rolls : 16

Italians Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.286
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.500
        Standard Deviation : 0.707
        Total rolls : 7

changed some ncm…

forgot to move BB.
attacked Formosa with an inf from kwang vs Celebes
didn’t ncm my 2 mechs to rhod, put them in belg congo
didn’t ncm tac and fgt to belg congo send them to egy

that’s it sorry about that.

yeah know, I think triple a didn’t roll that naval battle in z110 correctly? you had first shot with your ss and hit, then I attacked with my fgt & dd and hit one. I assumed you would lose your ss, but would have given you the opportunity to change this if you wanted to submerge it aftere the turn, wen ahead for expediency purposes.

Then rather than my fgt getting an attack the german dd rolled on D and scored a two and the fgt didn’t get an opportunity to attack. The fgt should have rolled first then the dd should have rolled it’s D….I think? That 2 should have been mine and your defensive roll should have happened next?

Let me ask someone in the know about this, sorry, hang on…

this is the way tripleA does it. it is incorrect, but since you rolled it in tripleA you should go with the dice as rolled.  the correct way to roll this battle is the british des and ftr fire, defender chooses casualty, then the defenders fire together.  tripleA always rolls for defending subs first even when there is an attacking destroyer.  so tripleA is in error rolling the sub as though it has a sneak attack here, thus the sub first, then the attackers, then the defending destroyer.  make sense?  really made no difference here as it relates to casualties etc, although as you said, artofwar should be allowed to keep the sub instead of the destroyer if he wishes.

if you want naval battles to be run by the book, you have to roll them on the forum.

cheers

thanks for getting to this so quickly Bold. Art, how do you wish to proceed? And going forward I guess we should roll naval battles on the forum, do you know how to do this?

@ArtofWar1947:

Not sure how to roll naval battles on the forum, but would be glad to learn.

My two attacking dd

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 02@2: (4, 6)

Your D rolls: 1 BB, 2CR + 3 fgt, 2cv & dd and your one ss.
Rolls: 1@4 3@2 2@2 1@1; Total Hits: 31@4: (2)3@2: (6, 6, 1)2@2: (1, 6)1@1: (4)

it’s pretty simple.

you typically type what you are rolling, offensive or defensive rolls and then the formula.

attacking with a BMB, 2 fgt, 2inf & 2art & 4 inf

;aaa 1@4 2@3 4@2 4@1; etc……

simply replace the ; symbol with the : and you are good…give it a try…