2014 G40 league rules

@DeadTom:

I’m not sure if this is where to ask, but can I get a rules clarification?

Under what circumstances can you fly over neutrals? Can you fly over in combat move if you attack them the same turn?

You cannot fly over and past them in combat.  You can only fly over and past them in noncom, and only if you attacked the specific territory you want to fly over.  The planes flying over need not have been part of the attack.  Clear?

Thanks  :-)

@Boldfresh:

@DeadTom:

I’m not sure if this is where to ask, but can I get a rules clarification?

Under what circumstances can you fly over neutrals? Can you fly over in combat move if you attack them the same turn?

You cannot fly over and past them in combat.� You can only fly over and past them in noncom, and only if you attacked the specific territory you want to fly over.� The planes flying over need not have been part of the attack.� Clear?

You can attack a neutral during combat phase with planes they just can’t fly over AND past the neutral being attacked during combat phase.

The DOW on true neutrals is just a TripleA thing, right? Does that have any affect at all if you DOW on a prior turn, but don’t actually attack anything? If you attack a territory on an earlier turn, can you fly over it freely?

@DeadTom:

The DOW on true neutrals is just a TripleA thing, right? Does that have any affect at all if you DOW on a prior turn, but don’t actually attack anything? If you attack a territory on an earlier turn, can you fly over it freely?

tripleA handles the neutrals completely wrong - don’t trust anything it does.  you can only fly over a neutral territory that you actually attacked.  on the turn you attack any neutral, the rest of the neutrals, for all intents and purposes i believe, become like pro-the other side-neutrals.  the one(s) you actually attack become friendly to the other side, meaning they can land aircraft there immediately, unless you took the territory of course.

Ok, that clears up my questions. Thanks.

I guess my questions aren’t cleared up yet  :|

@MagicQ:

c) You CAN fly over a neutral that has been attacked previously, because it is actually no longer a neutral even if it was not conquered.  It has joined the opposing side.  You can do this in the non-combat move immediately following the attack.

Sounds like if I attack Afganistan with USA fig in moscow, then UK air can fly over no matter what.

To clarify, I’m asking if a neutral does indeed join the axis side immediately if it is attacked by the allies.

@DeadTom:

I guess my questions aren’t cleared up yet� :|

@MagicQ:

c) You CAN fly over a neutral that has been attacked previously, because it is actually no longer a neutral even if it was not conquered.� It has joined the opposing side.� You can do this in the non-combat move immediately following the attack.

Sounds like if I attack Afganistan with USA fig in moscow, then UK air can fly over no matter what.

Absolutely correct as it relates to any neutral which has actually been attacked on any prior turn by any power.

@DeadTom:

To clarify, I’m asking if a neutral does indeed join the axis side immediately if it is attacked by the allies.

in this case Afghanistan immediately becomes friendly to the axis but does not become axis controlled until an axis land unit walks in.

All unattached neutrals change to proaxis neutral status and all that entails.

@Boldfresh:

@DeadTom:

To clarify, I’m asking if a neutral does indeed join the axis side immediately if it is attacked by the allies.

in this case Afghanistan immediately becomes friendly to the axis but does not become axis controlled until an axis land unit walks in.

All unattached neutrals change to proaxis neutral status and all that entails.

Friendly is NOT neutral.

Axis controlled
Friendly to axis
Pro axis neutral
True neutral

Oh, I see. I didn’t get the distinction between friendly and pro-axis neutral. The rule book calls them friendly neutrals, so I got confused  :oops:

@DeadTom:

Oh, I see. I didn’t get the distinction between friendly and pro-axis neutral. The rule book calls them friendly neutrals, so I got confused  :oops:

Yes bad wording by rulebook.

@Boldfresh:

@DeadTom:

Oh, I see. I didn’t get the distinction between friendly and pro-axis neutral. The rule book calls them friendly neutrals, so I got confused  :oops:

Yes bad wording by rulebook.

I think they rulebook tried to use the word ‘friendly’ as shorthand for ‘proaxis or Pro allied’.  :|

I think that the term “friendly” is used in the same context as the Dutch territories are to UK Pacific and ANZAC.  You can land a “friendly” plane there, but you don’t actually take the territory until you place a land unit in it.

The only distinctions btw friendly and pro are that aircraft can land in friendly and aircraft can fly over friendly without restriction.

One final clarification… triplea doesn’t handle the neutrals correctly in almost every regard so beware.

@Gamerman01:

Yeah you already said that  :-)

don’t think i can stress it enough.  reading your post, one might think tripleA could possibly be trusted in come cases to do something right…  :wink: