Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35 Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in 111 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland 1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland 1 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 6 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs2014 G40 league rules
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I’m told you can upload files again (can post TripleA moves to the forum)
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We need to include an official rule on what to do if the website’s upload folder is full for next year’s league, Gamer.
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Right. Storm Dave Jensen’s house with pitchforks and torches.
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Is there a way to prohibit Boldfresh from posting in other peoples games. He is very annoying and detracts from game play.
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No, but you can try asking him
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Agreed, tact is usually the best solution.
However, I would ask all players to refrain from posting in other player’s game threads unless asked to do so. Just as common courtesy.
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@Infrastructure:
Is there a way to prohibit Boldfresh from posting in other peoples games. He is very annoying and detracts from game play.
best way to do it is to NOT be a raging hypocrite. :-P
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@Infrastructure:
Is there a way to prohibit Boldfresh from posting in other peoples games.� He is very annoying and detracts from game play.
No, but you can try asking him
Boldfresh is completely harmless. He VERY subtly and kindly points out different aspects of double standards and potential hypocrisy, so there is no need to “prohibit” one of the most passionate players on here from showing his wonderful smile every once in a while :)
@Cmdr:
Agreed, tact is usually the best solution.
However, I would ask all players to refrain from posting in other player’s game threads unless asked to do so.� Just as common courtesy.
I completely disagree ;) This is the open internet, and the entire forum and all of the games are open by choice. By playing online on a forum like this you’ve “signed” a waiver, giving up your game’s need for “privacy”. Those that want to have games where only they can comment can PBEM like we used to back in the day ;) Then we would actually have to hack into accounts in order to follow and comment, so only those who are REALLY desperate to do so would do it.
;)
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@Infrastructure:
Is there a way to prohibit Boldfresh from posting in other peoples games. He is very annoying and detracts from game play.
best way to do it is to NOT be a raging hypocrite. :-P
I wrote my post BEFORE you posted this ;) lol
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in all truth infra, i would rather say it gently right to your face that i felt you were being inconsistent - bmnielson clearly intended to DOW with France, exactly as you had. you had some extremely strong words against one of the most honorable players to ever play the game (arathorn) and i think it would have behooved you, after that whole upset, to do what you had so strongly advocated that arathorn should have done. but that’s just my two cents, for your own good, truly.
i really am not trying to be mean or underhanded in any way, and i’ve enjoyed our current game quite a lot. i enjoy playing you, but i would prefer to comment directly in your game thread rather than elsewhere. if you would rather i state it elsewhere just let me know.
cheers, and happy gaming.
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I did say tact. I did not say you were in violation of rules. But common courtesy would say it is kind of rude to but into a game between two players, whether it is in central park or on the forums.
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I agree with arathorn.
Sorry, Jen, but I simply cannot see any rudeness in posting in other peoples game thread.
Both players still have the option not to answer, so it doesn’t affect the gameplay at all, as Infrastructure as stated. At least, I cannot immagine how it influences any turns.
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in all truth infra, i would rather say it gently right to your face that i felt you were being inconsistent - bmnielson clearly intended to DOW with France, exactly as you had. you had some extremely strong words against one of the most honorable players to ever play the game (arathorn) and i think it would have behooved you, after that whole upset, to do what you had so strongly advocated that arathorn should have done. but that’s just my two cents, for your own good, truly.
i really am not trying to be mean or underhanded in any way, and i’ve enjoyed our current game quite a lot. i enjoy playing you, but i would prefer to comment directly in your game thread rather than elsewhere. if you would rather i state it elsewhere just let me know.
cheers, and happy gaming.
If you look at the games in question you will see more than a couple glaring differences in the scenarios. I will now gladly go back to france’s turn if bmnielson wants to. Im not sure he does as he might be in a better postion after my move. He is set up to make it so india will easily never fall again. I waffled on wether or not to do it for strategy’s sake.
BOLDFRESH, can you please not write posts on any of my other games?
I will finish my game with you of course.Since I seem to be in the hot seat here and do not consider myself in the wrong, perhaps I need to find another place to play.
To those of you that have been wonderful opponents thanks for the games! -
perhaps I need to find another place to play
Another place abound in their own BFs. Our one is not the worse. :-)
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perhaps I need to find another place to play
Another place abound in their own BFs. Our one is not the worse. :-)
Take it easy, disregard, play and enjoy.Awww Me, you’re making me blush, thanks man. :-) :-P
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@Infrastructure:
in all truth infra, i would rather say it gently right to your face that i felt you were being inconsistent - bmnielson clearly intended to DOW with France, exactly as you had.� you had some extremely strong words against one of the most honorable players to ever play the game (arathorn) and i think it would have behooved you, after that whole upset, to do what you had so strongly advocated that arathorn should have done.� but that’s just my two cents, for your own good, truly.
i really am not trying to be mean or underhanded in any way, and i’ve enjoyed our current game quite a lot.� i enjoy playing you, but i would prefer to comment directly in your game thread rather than elsewhere.� if you would rather i state it elsewhere just let me know.
cheers, and happy gaming.
If you look at the games in question you will see more than a couple glaring differences in the scenarios. I will now gladly go back to france’s turn if bmnielson wants to. Im not sure he does as he might be in a better postion after my move. He is set up to make it so india will easily never fall again. I waffled on wether or not to do it for strategy’s sake.
BOLDFRESH, can you please not write posts on any of my other games?
I will finish my game with you of course.
Since I seem to be in the hot seat here and do not consider myself in the wrong, perhaps I need to find another place to play.
To those of you that have been wonderful opponents thanks for the games!Infrastructure,
You’re so funny. And what makes it even funnier is that you’re not even trying. The reason why it’s fun to poke or push your buttons just a little bit is because it’s so easy to get a reaction without even really doing something. This is especially due to how you’re the one on here quickest to complain about “extreme dice”. Of course, even with just a basic college class in statistics and probability one would easily detect that the “extreme” dice aren’t usually that “extreme” :) lol
Anyway, you’re a Tier 1 player, and you play well so we want you here. I hope you don’t interpret our friendly teasing as an effort to push you away from playing here. It’s all meant in good sport. And I can assure you that the troll activity on most other sites can better be compared to a zoo or circus :) So you’re in a good place, even though you might get teased a little, since you’re both good and funny!
I hope you’ll even consider playing me again once I’m back into league games.
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To “all” on A&A.org ;)
Quick general educational comment on the interpretation of dice.
If the outcome of your dice is slightly different than the 5000 battle calc simulations’ average, that does NOT mean your dice are “extreme” ;)
What would be extreme is if you actually GET the battle calc average results several times in a row. People can’t trust the battle calc so heavily. It only gives a hint of what to expect. Because when you start the actual roll, ANY result is “acceptable”.In a “80%” battle, you can actually be “lucky” getting a sub par result, because you COULD HAVE had even WORSE. hehe
But I guess probability is for the boring kind of geeks. Lol
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Rule of thumb before you complain:
•Anything that’s not the EXACT average of 5000 battle call simulations is NOT “extreme dice”.
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One not need think of extreme luck as instaneous, but also cumulative in principle. To lose 10+ IPCs of value every turn for several turns with no balancing luck against your opponent impacts a game almost as much as losing the same amount at once. That is not even taking into account the weight of timing and position. Good players know when a game has been won or lost more to luck than to skill.
The most unfortunate part of this game in my mind is that around half of the games are determined by extreme luck. Definition of extreme luck meaning the game is determined more by luck than skill.It is such a wonderful game though! Except of course when playing with an opponent that prefers a cheap win than a good game…
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@Infrastructure:
The most unfortunate part of this game in my mind is that around half of the games are determined by extreme luck.
We must have very different experience then. I would say it’s more likely to be around 10-20% tops (games decided more by luck, than by skill).





