Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 armour moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Norway 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Norway 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Russians scrambles 2 units out of 128 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Norway Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 57 Casualties for Germans: 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Leningrad 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 5 infantry placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 1. 3 fighters placed in France 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 3. 2 fighters placed in France 1 fighter placed in Western Germany 2 destroyers placed in 116 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,6,5,2,3,6,4,3,4,5,4,1,4 Germans collect 54 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs2014 League Post Game Results Here
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Whackamatt (Allies +11) over vs. souL (Axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33955.0
Another long one, 22 rounds in and it was even for most of it.
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souL what happened?
You never lose man!
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souL what happened?
You never lose man!
…wha, what? I was really good at AA50. G40, not so much. I’m working on it though!
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Maese Bolo (allies+20) over Don Guti (axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34513.45
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I agree that the NO’s are really screwed up. With the axis having so many relatively easy ones to get, and the allies having stupid and unachievable NO’s like the 10 for taking Berlin.
The France capital Conundrum is another big game breaker.
I wonder if the League introduced one simple change like:
*Allies can choose to liberate Paris - or to not Liberate paris upon capture, or can activate on a subsequent turn
*Or UK gets +5 No for no subs in Atlantic.
*Or UK india also gets a bonus for Burma Road open instead of Hong Kong and Malaya
*Or Russia starts with a bomberOr something like that, how much difference it would make?
I get that we don’t want to detract from the game design, and turn this into some whole other beast. But one day there is going to be a global 3rd edition, and we want to be the ones who come up with the strategy that evens things out a bit!
At the very least, if we drew back or at least reviewed one/some of the allied NO’s from the global Alpha editions we might get things closer to that balanced factor we like.
Perhaps we include/allow bids for extra NO’s as opposed to just units?
I still wonder why adjusting NOs should be relevant.
In my opinion the bid is the perfect balance factor. Bids are going up meanwhile. >+20 becomes standard and lets see how this changes the game.
One could discuss to make some standard bids = standard units on the map. E.g. just add a sub to 98.However having freedom using the bids even gives more color to the game in my opinion.
My conclusion is: Bids will easily balance everything out PLUS: I guess we are still at the beginning to explore A&A. Maybe we just don’t know how to play Allies yet and in a couple of months/years we might come to different conclusions:)
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I btw agree that the Russian +10 or the Japanese midway, Salamon island NOs are off and irrelevant. But this does imo have nothing to do with balancing.
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Shin ji (allies +12) beat the crap out of variance again.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34582.75
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34516.0
Albertorelonchis (Axis) over JuanSpain (Allies).
Good game by Alberto, and proved again how chinese defeat in Yunnan retake in round 1 means almost a defeat for Allies in this game.
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Who wants to see Garg in the league??!?!?!
I DO….I have wondered why he seems to duck it……time to play w/the big boys
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At first I wanted to jump to the conclusion that the Axis were simply stronger at setup.
but now I wonder…_Are the Axis better because the top players play them more often? Or are the top players better because they choose to take the Axis side more often?
my 2 cents……
The axis are easier to play and win, there is a simple straight forward approach to achieving victory, especially in Europe….the allies are indeed harder but imo more fun/satisfying to win with when you play against an evenly matched player._ -
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34484.60
rgp44 and JeffM over Whack. The dice weren’t in it for me, and when you gamble as I do, it’s a fast road to ruin.
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I started a thread here http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34622.0
to discuss the creation of new Allied NOs to create game balance. Don’t want to clog up the results thread anymore than it is.
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For any who are wondering, I gave permission to rgp44 to share his games with his friend JeffM (JeffM makes some of the moves), on the condition that they are totally up front with their opponents beforehand, and their opponent agrees.
This is a league for 1v1 play, but the league generally also allows just about anything if both sides are in agreement at game start.
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34436.90
axis-dominion (Allies +11) over Whack. Not in the cards…err, dice.
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Hobo (Allies +12) over Vold
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For any who are wondering, I gave permission to rgp44 to share his games with his friend JeffM (JeffM makes some of the moves), on the condition that they are totally up front with their opponents beforehand, and their opponent agrees.
This is a league for 1v1 play, but the league generally also allows just about anything if both sides are in agreement at game start.
That’s what I like about how this is run. The XDAP Tournament was the same way, and so will #2 be!
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34415.165
Whack over Entek +15.
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It’s been 5 days now and no word from soulblighter. He didn’t respond to my email either. Should I keep waiting? Allies are dominating anyway (file had gotten too big to post so we took it to pbem).
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34412.new;topicseen#new
Recorded later, 25 Oct
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To claim a win by default, you would need to have given your opponent 4 “bump” warnings over the course of the match or you would need to wait for a 9 day gap in play (excluding a requested absence from your opponent).
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Oh I see. Ok then I’ll give it another 5 days.