Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Air Battle in United Kingdom Germans attacks with 2 units heading to United Kingdom Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,8 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 11 damage total. Battle in Scotland Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 118 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 118 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 armour moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Germany 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 6 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs2014 League Post Game Results Here
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I agree that the NO’s are really screwed up. With the axis having so many relatively easy ones to get, and the allies having stupid and unachievable NO’s like the 10 for taking Berlin.
The France capital Conundrum is another big game breaker.
I wonder if the League introduced one simple change like:
*Allies can choose to liberate Paris - or to not Liberate paris upon capture, or can activate on a subsequent turn
*Or UK gets +5 No for no subs in Atlantic.
*Or UK india also gets a bonus for Burma Road open instead of Hong Kong and Malaya
*Or Russia starts with a bomberOr something like that, how much difference it would make?
I get that we don’t want to detract from the game design, and turn this into some whole other beast. But one day there is going to be a global 3rd edition, and we want to be the ones who come up with the strategy that evens things out a bit!
At the very least, if we drew back or at least reviewed one/some of the allied NO’s from the global Alpha editions we might get things closer to that balanced factor we like.
Perhaps we include/allow bids for extra NO’s as opposed to just units?
I still wonder why adjusting NOs should be relevant.
In my opinion the bid is the perfect balance factor. Bids are going up meanwhile. >+20 becomes standard and lets see how this changes the game.
One could discuss to make some standard bids = standard units on the map. E.g. just add a sub to 98.However having freedom using the bids even gives more color to the game in my opinion.
My conclusion is: Bids will easily balance everything out PLUS: I guess we are still at the beginning to explore A&A. Maybe we just don’t know how to play Allies yet and in a couple of months/years we might come to different conclusions:)
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I btw agree that the Russian +10 or the Japanese midway, Salamon island NOs are off and irrelevant. But this does imo have nothing to do with balancing.
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Shin ji (allies +12) beat the crap out of variance again.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34582.75
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34516.0
Albertorelonchis (Axis) over JuanSpain (Allies).
Good game by Alberto, and proved again how chinese defeat in Yunnan retake in round 1 means almost a defeat for Allies in this game.
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Who wants to see Garg in the league??!?!?!
I DO….I have wondered why he seems to duck it……time to play w/the big boys
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At first I wanted to jump to the conclusion that the Axis were simply stronger at setup.
but now I wonder…_Are the Axis better because the top players play them more often? Or are the top players better because they choose to take the Axis side more often?
my 2 cents……
The axis are easier to play and win, there is a simple straight forward approach to achieving victory, especially in Europe….the allies are indeed harder but imo more fun/satisfying to win with when you play against an evenly matched player._ -
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34484.60
rgp44 and JeffM over Whack. The dice weren’t in it for me, and when you gamble as I do, it’s a fast road to ruin.
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I started a thread here http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34622.0
to discuss the creation of new Allied NOs to create game balance. Don’t want to clog up the results thread anymore than it is.
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For any who are wondering, I gave permission to rgp44 to share his games with his friend JeffM (JeffM makes some of the moves), on the condition that they are totally up front with their opponents beforehand, and their opponent agrees.
This is a league for 1v1 play, but the league generally also allows just about anything if both sides are in agreement at game start.
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34436.90
axis-dominion (Allies +11) over Whack. Not in the cards…err, dice.
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Hobo (Allies +12) over Vold
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For any who are wondering, I gave permission to rgp44 to share his games with his friend JeffM (JeffM makes some of the moves), on the condition that they are totally up front with their opponents beforehand, and their opponent agrees.
This is a league for 1v1 play, but the league generally also allows just about anything if both sides are in agreement at game start.
That’s what I like about how this is run. The XDAP Tournament was the same way, and so will #2 be!
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34415.165
Whack over Entek +15.
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It’s been 5 days now and no word from soulblighter. He didn’t respond to my email either. Should I keep waiting? Allies are dominating anyway (file had gotten too big to post so we took it to pbem).
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34412.new;topicseen#new
Recorded later, 25 Oct
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To claim a win by default, you would need to have given your opponent 4 “bump” warnings over the course of the match or you would need to wait for a 9 day gap in play (excluding a requested absence from your opponent).
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Oh I see. Ok then I’ll give it another 5 days.
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bjergmose (axis) lost to bonusbent.
ran outta places to attack…nice containment :-)
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It’s been 5 days now and no word from soulblighter. He didn’t respond to my email either. Should I keep waiting? Allies are dominating anyway (file had gotten too big to post so we took it to pbem).
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34412.new;topicseen#new
I have had severe internet issues. I am able to come online now due to a mobile internet device. I may be able to finish my remaining games, but I would have to test how that goes.
So this is a general message to all my opponents. Please be patient. I hope to resume and finish (concede or otherwise) before the end of this league season.
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Bumped Mr.Cunego (axis) to defeat vs bjergmose (allies)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34124.0
he would´ve lost anyways :wink:
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King_Nothing (Allies +15) over Vold
I think I left my game on the river when I went fishing this summer :cry:
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