Scenerio: Would you take Kar in Rd 1?

Yeah.

I was going to take Yak, bigtime.

If his UK ftr landed there, I’d brought in all my planes and would have sacked 1 to take it.

If his ftr went to counter Egy, I would’ve looked at taking China as well with my 3rd ftr.

I would have had to roll them out on my roller, but if I recall I think it was doable to take both.

I also my have dropped off troops in India as well from the Phil.

I was going to go IC and tran for Man. And yes I was going for an all out blitz of Russia.

It would have been a boring game for me as the Germans after rd 3 or 4 if I didn’t take Moscow, but he left the door open and I took it.

I would’ve done Pearl lite as well, as all my fighting force would be needed in Asia ASAP. He could counter an empty HI sz if he liked.

I didn’t know he’d quit if I took Kar. I guess I wasn’t fully aware of the guidelines we were playing under.

I forgot, on the Allied ships

The UK can have a full load of ships on UK 2 regardless if I left the UK Med BB.

4 trns, 1 BB plus Russian and US ships for fodder.

I don’t want everyone to get me wrong, I very much am in favor of killing all the Allied ships and would do so probably 90% of the time.

But if I’m going to kill them I want them all. So when I had my turn planned out in order for me to kill all ships except the US trn It would’ve cost me 2 ftrs.

I probably could’ve left the sub, but I hate that darn thing. :D

But I’m in a game with Mr. G where he killed 1 Ger ftr and almost sacked a 2nd on R1, and in that game I did sack his ships.

I just ended up trying something different, the oppurtunity was there, and I took it.

I think what I’m having a real problem with is Panda wanting to play a PA game (which is fine) and gearing up to defend it, but not looking at the consequences of his defenses. Thus he could lightly defend Kar. Bait my a$$. He made a mistake, period. He’s lucky I really didn’t try to bury him.
I really could’ve done some damage cause I still almost went BB vs. BB and still sink his UK tran with my bom.

I would have had Kar, Cauc and he be down to 1 BB and only 1 trn as the UK with no Russian forces come the start of rd 2.

We used the DAAK roller.

But about a year ago when I first was introduced to LL, I found it interesting. So I made my own roller in EXCEL. I use it to see kind of best case vs. worst case scenerios depending on if I want the defender to hit on 2 or higher, 3 or higher, or 4 or higher.

It gives me cost analysis as well and it makes it easier for me to type out PBEM turns or play from work sometimes as I don’t feel bad about using Excel at work, but I certainly wouldn’t want to load A&A tools and stuff on my work computer.

Plus when I mess with the stuff in Excel I can kill time at work sometimes. :D

I only would’ve went to Ind if he vacated it. But I really wanted to see what the UK would do.

I think I’m more of a conservative player as well, although I suppose it varies. But I do like the more “sure thing” type battles which is why I agree with one of SHP initial comments about how this was so unlike me, which is true. I just didn’t know it would end the game.

If he said “Hey I really wanted to try a PA game and show you how the Allies do such and such…”

I would’ve have said okay and probably redid G1 that night. But something about his comments rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe I misunderstood him again. But in either case it wasn’t clear to me on the goal of our game.
He could’ve made it clear after my bid and said “I really want to play PA, would you mind placing 5 inf in Lib and 2 on Man.” I would’ve been fine with that as well. Like I said I just thought we were playing any old game.

And while I admit it wasn’t the best G1, which is why I put
“this is going to get ugly”
before I even did my turn, I will defend it. I mean I made the move, so I have to defend it, even though 90% of the time I do the standard kill all (or most Allied ships).

Panda,
You make everthing so difficult. :D

I really wasn’t aware that we were only going to test PA. Yes, so the 4-3 bid was a bit of a set up. By that I mean I wanted lots of options on G1 and J1.
I didn’t realize you wanted a completely transparent game. I don’t see how that could be fun for you? If you know everything I’m going to do, I don’t even need to play.

You can type out your own game playing yourself and show everyone how it’s done.

I’ve already said (somewhere) that if I played in clubs, I would bid and play differently.

And if you only play for points and rankings why even waste your time here or offer to play people?

Remember, you suggested we play not me.

I’d be happy to play BW or OpTorch or any othe club player, but I’m not going to go asking them. I’ve had a post sitting in the games section for a couple of months looking for a player. Anyone is free to play or challenge me.
I was under the impression Club players only play for their points/rankings and don’t play here too often if ever.

Usually people start out here then move on to a Club and cease playing their games here.

I don’t care ratings shmatings, you want to challenge me at FoE in a rated game, fine. I don’t care. If I lose big deal.
Oh no I’ll have one loss, I’m shaking…

I lost 100 points, oh no! Guess I’m the worst player ever. Boo hoo hoo.

Well, you know my name at FoE.

Sheeesh it was 1 battle. Sorry.

What was really killer was I almost took it with all 4 ftrs and my bom. The last rd of combat had me getting my remaining hits, but you had only 8 pts left. You scored a 1 or a 2 on the last rd to force me to lose a plane, but I could only imagine your reaction if that happen. Oh man, I too would be pissed.

If you had bought 8 inf though you would have had 15 inf, 1 arm, 1 ftr. I wouldn’t have been able to take no matter how much air I killed, also if you landed the 2nd ftr there I couldn’t have taken it, or even come close.

I just have one question, why set the trap if your not prepared to use it?

I was totally expecting a full strafe on Ukr with retreat to Kar, so your combined moves of Ukr and somewhat lightly defended Kar, I thought I could really cripple you early, cause I know you like Russia. I wanted to take away your strength, (or at least what I perceive to be your strength - Russia).

Your objection to the early Kar strike is entered into the permanent record.

Note to self: Never attack Kar prior to Rd 4.

You’re the biggest whiner!
Boo hoo hoo, I got bad dice. :cry:

I just re-rolled the battle TWICE.

Both times I took it with 1 arm, 2 ftr, 1 bom.

Just as BW predicted.

So I only came out ONE unit ahead. If you can’t deal with a one unit difference then you aren’t very good player.

I beat you fair and square.

Your damn right I order the code red!!! Of course I wanted to beat you, and I did nothing deceitful.

I’ve NEVER EVER said I think PE is unbeatable. I said I don’t like playing it because it leads to shorter games. I didn’t place a PE bid.

It is not my fault you set the bait and then I took it. It was a very good trap. Don’t set the stupid trap if you don’t want people to take the bait.

I’m sorry your “invicible aura” was smashed here, but maybe this will teach you a lesson on not to underestimate your opponents.

I came out ONE unit ahead and your crying like I just rolled 6 ones with aa-fire or something.

Sheeesh, it was a frickin’ LL game. Deal with it.

DM - I have three games going right now - when I clear one, I’ll be happy to play a game. I do think you would find that MOST players in the clubs also enjoy the game far more than the points, but the points just give a way of tallying it all up. What can be even more fun is getting involved in various team games or tourneys.

BW

Great. I look forward to it.

I’ve got a game with Mr. G going right now and a couple 5 player games going here, although one is all but over and has been for a while, and the other is just dragging along.

Just let me know whenever you got time. Don’t worry either, I won’t use any “Crazy take Kar strats” :wink:
Apparently, I only use this secret tactic to make SHP mad.

What can I say, he set a very good trap.

Mr. G,

I thought he was saying that I was full of baloney because I said I wouldn’t attack if he had 15 inf, 1 arm, 1 ftr.

But hey, he’s right looking at those numbers maybe I would’ve have.

Again, that only shows a 1 unit difference. That should hardly be a game breaker for someone of his “supposed” skill.