13L G40 seththenewb(allies+10) vs MagicQ(axis)

@seththenewb:

Yea, Gamer’s right if you refuse to roll sub combat on the forums then I will continue to protest each and every battle that you roll in triplea that has subs in it.

Gamer, since you are saying that I’m ‘technically correct’ (although apparently not correct enough to negate his illegal roll this past battle). What is your stance on further combat involving subs? We don’t know what the next combat will result in, so I’m not trying to avoid any dicing. But I did protest his rolling in triplea prior to seeing the results and that didn’t get me anywhere either . . . . :roll:

Let Gamer create a poll thread and ask how the majority of league players in this forum prefer it. That would the simplest solution. LOL

Don’t get me wrong. I am more than happy to use forum dice whenever both of us think it is necessary. Most likely in the near future for the massive fleets in Pacific as you said, for instance. Are we on same page now? I shall continue then?  :mrgreen:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 infantry and 17 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 111 Sea Zone to Scotland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            19 armour and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caucasus to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey
                  Germans take Yenisey from Russians

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Scotland
            Battle in Persia
                Germans attack with 19 armour and 11 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Persia from British with 19 armour and 11 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Iraq
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Iraq from British with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 aaGuns, 7 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            3 artilleries moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
            5 bombers moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            3 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Belarus
            6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            5 armour, 5 artilleries, 22 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Belarus

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in Russia
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 68 PUs; end with 68 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 97 PUs

@KimRYoung:

I have a question as an observer. If Seth believes that in battles involving Subs vs destroyers should be rolled on the forum, how come no one does this on G1 when the Germans attack SZ111 and this very situation occurs?

I’m hoping to start playing on the forum so I just want to know what would be proper. Thanks

Kim

Welcome aboard! Do not hesitate to play. This is only trivial dispute. Don’t let this discourage you. Some players don’t realize this. Some players don’t care. Some players may want it strictly done as Seth does. Not a big deal. Think about better strategy. That’s more important.

Since Seth is “technically correct”, I will try to compromise and play his way.

@seththenewb:

I don’t. Yeah, I’m pretty competitive and I’d rather win than lose. But honestly I love playing the game more than anything and I don’t want to get sucked into a no fun game. Different case for playoff or tourney game. But this doesn’t mean much to me.

And right now this game’s not giving me much joy because myself and MagicQ aren’t on the same page about the sub issue and who knows what else might crop up down the road. If it’s this much hassle, I’d rather focus on my other games and start new ones than continue this one. It’s up to MagicQ though if he’s prepared to spend a couple of seconds to roll sub combat. Besides he never responded to my earlier question about what situation forum dice are needed.

As far as the poll, it’s not needed. I’ve played tons of games in league and nonleague play on this forum. I’ve also lurked in quite a few games. This is the first time I can remember where anyone has had an issue rolling on the forum.

The only other player I can think of is Bold, but that’s more because he has bad luck and blames the forum rather than make & wear garlands of 4 leaf clovers, buy all the rabbit feet available on Ebay, and avoid black cats.  :-P

Hi Seth

In the future battle, we should always ask before rolling any battle involving subs. How about that?

Hi Seth

Seems you’ve lost appetite for this game and focus on other games. That’s fine. Report it please if you do wanna give up. If you wanna come back and play it to the bitter end, always welcome. I think I have made it clear for my attitude towards the forum dice issue.

GG or continue? your call.

No worry. Take your time.

Now I get headache with Japan in Pacific. They are not looking good. Need time to figure it out.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 bombers, 4 destroyers, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 22 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Shan State to 41 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                British defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                ANZAC defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine and 1 transport
            Battle in 23 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 22 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win, taking 22 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 battleship, 3 carriers and 2 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 6 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 23 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Philippines to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            2 aaGuns and 7 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
            1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Manchuria

Place Units - Japanese
            4 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 1 infantry placed in Japan
            2 infantry placed in French Indo China

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs