Could Meade Have Neutralized Lee After Gettysburg?

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    No Marc.
    Meade was not the man to do it. And his army was not in a position to do so, even under another man.
    Not winning at Gettysburg, losing the ability to continue attacking, was not the end of the ANV. The 1864 overland campaigns are testament to that. Admittedly, the ANV was fighting in its backyard with all the advantages of knowledge of terrain.
    Go back to Sept 62. The Army had its back to the Potomac and was far less outnumbered then it was now. That army was as dogged in defence as it was in attack.
    Lincoln had no idea if he thought the ANV was finished.
    All Lee(and Longstreet) needed was a defensive battle to put then back on a parr with the Army of the Potomac.
    On the 3rd evening Brigadier  Farnsworth was killed in a futile operation orders by his useless and vain Cavalry commander, Pleasanton, when they ran on to the rifles of the 4th Texas.

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    Apologies: it was the 1st Texas.

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    Like a lot of others here, I can get obsessed with a subject(or game!). It happened to be your war all those years ago at university.
    I find it easy to sympathise with the commanders as there are fewer than WW2 and they were mostly from the same (military) background and thought and believed in similar things.
    And one day I will walk the battlefields.


  • wittmann, I’m just a few miles from Antietam and 1/2 hour from Gettysburg.  You’re welcome to stay when you come.

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    Thank you. Those two battles  is where I would start.
    Then get lost in the Wilderness!


  • 15-20k more cavalry
    5k marines and
    a big navy would have enabled such a victory.

    The bulk of this non existent cavalry could have raced parallel to Lee’s army to the Potomac as a blocking pincer by Hagerstown.
    The Union navy could then rush mortar boats, fresh marines, and other gun boats into support range.
    That would buy enough time for the rest of the Union Army + reinforcements to roll in under an aggressive group of generals.


  • Expecting Meade’s infantry to detrench and rapidly pursue would have been disasterous.

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    Linkon: are you saying your answer is no then?
    Otherwise your post is certainly the beginnings of a plan. I would like to think if the Union had have had those kind of reserves, the South and Lee would have had some contingency plan themselves.


  • Something or someone would have to slow down Lee’s withdrawal.

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    Thank you.
    I must confess I have never read about the movements of the two armies after the 3rd.
    I will look in Freeman’s Lee’s Lieutenants, as I am not sure I will find much information in any of my other books.

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