13LG40NT Boldfresh (allies +9) vs seththenewb (axis)

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    @seththenewb:

    That’s part of my strategy’s goal.  :evil:

    USA can’t be everywhere at once and in strength. Too little in either theater could spell the death knell for the allies!

    i can assure you of this seth…. your strategy will fail.  :wink: :-P

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - Americans
                Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
                Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
                Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
                Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
                Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
                Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Americans
                1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Central United States to 26 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
                Battle in 26 Sea Zone
                    Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                    Americans win, taking 26 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Americans
                2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                1 bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                      Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
                1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
                1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
                2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States

    Place Units - Americans
                1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone
                1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
                Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
                Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
                Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
                Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Chahar
                6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
                2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
                2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
                Battle in Yunnan
                    Chinese attack with 10 infantry
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Battle in Chahar
                    Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
                1 fighter moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
                4 infantry placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
                Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
                Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 17 PUs

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - British
                British buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - British
                1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone
                1 bomber and 1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Tobruk
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Tobruk
                1 fighter moved from Burma to French Indo China
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to French Indo China

    Combat - British
                Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                    Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                        British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                        1 destroyer owned by the Italians , 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                    British win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                    Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                    Germans defend with 1 submarine
                        Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                        1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone
                    British win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Battle in Tobruk
                    British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Italians defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                        British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tobruk, round 2 :  2/8 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                        2 infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tobruk
                        British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tobruk, round 3 :  3/6 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                        2 infantry owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the Italians , 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tobruk
                    1 armour owned by the British , 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the British retreated to Alexandria
                    Italians win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                    Casualties for British: 4 infantry
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Battle in French Indo China
                    British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                        British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in French Indo China, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                        Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                        2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China
                    British win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
                2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
                1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Brazil
                1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry moved from 87 Sea Zone to French West Africa
                1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
                1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                1 fighter moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
                1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
                1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
                1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
                      British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
                1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to Eastern United States
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Eastern United States

    Place Units - British
                1 submarine placed in 106 Sea Zone
                1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Union of South Africa: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Rhodesia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

    Turn Complete - British
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2
                British collect 27 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs total
                Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
                UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
                Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

    Dice Statistics:

    Total
                1 was rolled 16 times
                2 was rolled 14 times
                3 was rolled 6 times
                4 was rolled 12 times
                5 was rolled 15 times
                6 was rolled 12 times
            Average roll : 3.427
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.878
            Standard Deviation : 0.937
            Total rolls : 75

    Null / Other
                1 was rolled 1 times
                2 was rolled 1 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 2 times
                5 was rolled 3 times
            Average roll : 3.625
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.857
            Standard Deviation : 0.926
            Total rolls : 8

    Japanese Combat
                1 was rolled 1 times
                2 was rolled 1 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 2 times
                5 was rolled 3 times
            Average roll : 3.625
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.857
            Standard Deviation : 0.926
            Total rolls : 8

    Germans Combat
                2 was rolled 1 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 3.333
            Median : 3.000
            Variance : 1.500
            Standard Deviation : 1.225
            Total rolls : 3

    British Combat
                1 was rolled 6 times
                2 was rolled 5 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 4 times
                6 was rolled 5 times
            Average roll : 3.318
            Median : 2.500
            Variance : 1.238
            Standard Deviation : 1.113
            Total rolls : 22

    Italians Combat
                1 was rolled 2 times
                2 was rolled 2 times
                3 was rolled 2 times
                4 was rolled 3 times
                6 was rolled 2 times
            Average roll : 3.273
            Median : 3.000
            Variance : 0.900
            Standard Deviation : 0.949
            Total rolls : 11

    Chinese Combat
                1 was rolled 5 times
                2 was rolled 3 times
                4 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 2 times
                6 was rolled 4 times
            Average roll : 3.267
            Median : 2.000
            Variance : 1.357
            Standard Deviation : 1.165
            Total rolls : 15

    Americans Combat
                1 was rolled 1 times
                2 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 3 times
                5 was rolled 2 times
                6 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 3.875
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.857
            Standard Deviation : 0.926
            Total rolls : 8

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    well, that’s game seth.

    ready for game 2?  :-P

  • 12

    guess you are gonna have to sealion eh?  :wink:


  • Well if you want to surrender already that’s fine by me! :wink:

  • 12

    heh, hold on, got a quick edit.

  • 12

    nah go ahead.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - Italians
                Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                    Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
                1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
                1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                1 armour moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
                      Italians take British Somaliland from British
                1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland

    Combat - Italians
                Battle in Southern France
                    Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Battle in Tunisia
                    Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Greece
                    Italians attack with 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                    Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                    Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                    Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                    Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                1 fighter moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
                1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
                1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
                      Italians take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
                3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
                2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
                1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3
                Italians collect 15 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 17 PUs total


  • I was already taking my turn when you asked for the edit. But I don’t mind an edit to ncm stuff, what did you have in mind?

  • 12

    nothing, decided against it.

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Combat Move - French
                1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
                      French take Holland Belgium from Germans

    Combat - French

    Non Combat Move - French
                1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
                1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan

    Turn Complete - French


  • Oh thank GOD! whew .  . . I made a potentially fatal mistake with Japan. Usually I take Wake Island and I completely spaced on it. I didn’t notice until I went to do noncom and realized I had an unmoved transport. I didn’t feel right asking after the combat dice were rolled and I was really really hoping you wouldn’t hit me. With Wake as a landing spot, way too much American air could’ve reached. And then Aussies could’ve followed up with 1 ca and 3 ftrs, again using wake as a landing spot.

    Had I had Wake, I could’ve taken hits on the carriers and landed the air on the base were they could’ve scrambled against the aussies. Plus it removes a landing spots for the allied air, reducing the threat on them. That could’ve been really really bad for me. 2/3rds of my carriers and 20% of my air just like that.  :cry:

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    @seththenewb:

    Oh thank GOD! whew .  . . I made a potentially fatal mistake with Japan. Usually I take Wake Island and I completely spaced on it. I didn’t notice until I went to do noncom and realized I had an unmoved transport. I didn’t feel right asking after the combat dice were rolled and I was really really hoping you wouldn’t hit me. With Wake as a landing spot, way too much American air could’ve reached. And then Aussies could’ve followed up with 1 ca and 3 ftrs, again using wake as a landing spot.

    Had I had Wake, I could’ve taken hits on the carriers and landed the air on the base were they could’ve scrambled against the aussies. Plus it removes a landing spots for the allied air, reducing the threat on them. That could’ve been really really bad for me. 2/3rds of my carriers and 20% of my air just like that.  :cry:

    i figured you meant to take it.


  • Are you saying that you didn’t attack because you didn’t want to take advantage of that stupid gaffe or you just had other plans/didn’t see 1-2 punch?

  • 12

    it’s game over if i hit it.  either that or i get horribly diced and it’s game over for me… i have a terrible history with all air attacks on fleet.

    anyway, it’s gonna be way more fun this way.  :-)

  • 12

    well that perfect hit and run in yugo really saved your butt seth.  :lol:

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Belarus
                1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Western Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
                1 armour moved from Persia to Iraq
                2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
                1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Iraq

    Combat - Russians
                Battle in Belarus
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    retreated to Belarus
                    Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Western Ukraine
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    retreated to Western Ukraine
                    Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Iraq
                    Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                    Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                    Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                1 fighter moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
                7 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Bryansk
                2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 14 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
                6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
                2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.

    Place Units - Russians
                3 infantry placed in Volgograd
                10 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
                Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

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    welcome to the harsh reality of my dice.  it’s a very harsh thing to witness, and it’s NORMAL.   :lol:

    only thing a little abnormal about that is that the tank survived in iraq.  those three skirmishes will have a ripple effect through the rest of this game that will be very dramatic.

    fyi, if you had won the yugo battle in round 1, you would have been dead.  that’s what i love about this game though, the dice can throw a giant wrench into the best of plans at ANY TIME.  and for me, that means MOST of the time.   :wink:

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