13L G40 Boldfresh (+9) vs. Hobo - game 3

for the record, i think it was a smart move what you did.  however you could never have hoped in your wildest dreams for an outcome that sweet!  :wink:

had it been a tournament game or if i was actually in the runnings for a playoff, i would not have made the attack.  but i’m playing mostly to have fun and try new things and making that attack just plain runs the risk of a major dicing.  on the other hand, the time i ran it in local, i was the one that ended up with about 15 units.  very dicey battle, the type i would normally avoid since the dice typically HATE me.  :lol:

ok if you are so sure of it, let’s start over from R4.

that was a RIDICULOUS dicing anyway.  i mean completely stupid dicing.

or i’m happy to just keep playing from where we are.  still not going to be easy for you.  just play and we’ll see.  :roll:

@hobo:

It’s interesting you initiate so many battles when the odds aren’t in your favor. You also could have retreated earlier after recalculating odds per round.

I also find it interesting your perception on games. Maybe it’s just trash talking but you were nowhere near the dominating position you viewed. Even in the first game you were getting killed and had I been caught up with the VC situation with Japan you never would have won that way.

don’t know what you are referring to as to battles i initiate when odds are not in my favor.  but i will tell you this, if that battle goes to odds, you are DEAD IN THE WATER.  you can’t afford to even come close to trading germans for russians at this point, and that was slated to be roughly a trade.

the safer move for the russians would have been to take 10 inf, 3 art, and the air at your w ukr stack and go sit in russia where you would never have cracked moscow.

more fun this way, that would have been a complete massacre.  i like a challenge.

if i was playing cow, i would not have made that attack either, i would have just suffocated him.  but i don’t really have anything against you, so i went for it  :-P

plus if the dice are gonna do something that nuts, they could just as easily have done it when you attacked moscow with a 10% shot in a few rounds when you realized it was then or never.  if the dice are gonna go that nuts, there’s nothing you can do.  yeah i coulda retreated after round 1 but i decided i wanted to see if the russians could still win if they traded 3 to 1 for your forward stack.  let’s see.

maybe i’m giving you too much credit, but i took it as a desperate move,
that you were hoping i would go for the dicey battle and get dice f’d
because you saw how hopeless it was to go for moscow.  yeah you could have made it an
economic game if i retreated to moscow but if that battle goes remotely to odds, an
economic game was not going to develop for you (as you need southern russia to make that happen.

will be a great game if you continue to refine your game and we ever meet in a tournament game.  that would be fun.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Politics - Americans
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 4 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Americans
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Americans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Battle in 89 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 destroyers moved from 64 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 106 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
            1 bomber moved from 89 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 64 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 51 Sea Zone to New Zealand

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone
            4 fighters placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 70 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Sikang
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Kansu

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 2 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 5 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Kenya
                  British take Kenya from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Tanganyika Territory
            1 bomber moved from Syria to Tanganyika Territory
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Tanganyika Territory

Combat - British
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 43 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                British win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                British win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Borneo
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Borneo from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tanganyika Territory
                British attack with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
                Italians defend with 1 artillery
                British win, taking Tanganyika Territory from Italians with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Belgian Congo
            2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Kazakhstan
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Kazakhstan
            2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 battleship moved from 80 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from British Guiana to Brazil
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Persia
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Syria to Persia
            1 transport moved from 65 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
            1 armour moved from Eastern United States to Southeast Mexico

Place Units - British
            1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
            3 artilleries placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            5 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 5 artilleries and 2 infantry

@hobo:

@Boldfresh:

that was a RIDICULOUS dicing anyway.� i mean completely stupid dicing.

you haven’t seen ridiculous dicing until you lost a 99% battle like I just did against another player.

you attacked when the odds weren’t in your favor, with inferior dice. in the first round you hit 3 under and I hit 2 over, well within the standard deviation for that many dice rolled. after this, the odds went worse in your favor so if you pressed again that’s just “rolling the dice” so when “averages” come up again in round 2, there’s nothing to complain about.  In round 2, you hit exactly that, average, when decimals were rounded up in your favor.

if you really wanted to eliminate some of this “ridiculous” dicing, you would not have brushed off my observation the triplea random generator is flawed. I’ve already had too many 1 in a million dicing events in the very few sample size I’ve played in the past month. since you have more seniority among this forum, maybe if a group of players bringing this up to the triplea makers might help to resolve this in the future.

i really don’t mind.  and no i don’t believe the dice generator is “flawed” i get these type of dice regularly in real life so…. i seem to be prone to incredible bad luck  :lol:

this will now be a fun game.  trust me, you were DEAD in the water before that dicing.  so it’s all good.  :-)

99% battle… lol

2 inf, arm against an inf?  lol  that’s nothing to even bat an eye at for me.  it don’t matter to me unless it’s a huge battle like the one in ukr - that’s when it leaves a mark.  :lol:

oops meant to put the british ftr on the acc in eus.  will post the edited map in a sec

here you got- edit