Re Match 13L G40 - Mryogen (axis) vs Mallery29 (Allies +7)

The Pacific will be much harder now without them….I didn’t even see it at first, that’s why I had bought the CV for the US planes.  The initial landings could have gone either way for the Pacific. But that FTR vs Bomber battle was too much for me to pass up, considering all you could roll is ones for it.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :16

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Urals to Timguska
                  Russians take Timguska from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            1 armour moved from Russia to Tambov
                  Russians take Tambov from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Smolensk
                  Russians take Smolensk from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Samara
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Samara
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 armour moved from Timguska to Yenisey
                  Russians take Yenisey from Japanese

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Samara
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Vologda
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                Russians win, taking Vologda from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Russia

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 1 fighter placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :16

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 armour, 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 3 submarines and 3 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Philippines to Kwangtung
            2 carriers and 1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 bombers moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
                  Americans take Southern France from Italians
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 4 bombers and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 4 bombers and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  4/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 4 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Americans attack with 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Kwangtung, round 1 :  3/3 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 1 :  3/11 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Kwangtung, round 1 :  1/9 hits
                    6 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kwangtung
                    Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 :  8/10 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Kwangtung, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung
                Americans win, taking Kwangtung from Japanese with 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Japanese: 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 5 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            10 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            10 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            4 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
            1 aaGun, 7 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Spain to 91 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 7 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 12 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 10 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 7 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            2 fighters moved from Spain to Tobruk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Spain to Malta
            4 bombers moved from Spain to Malta
            20 infantry and 10 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            20 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain

Place Units - Americans
            3 armour placed in Spain
            3 bombers and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            3 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 68 PUs; end with 73 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 98 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Iwo Jima : 1 flag
    Marshall Islands : 1 flag
    Okinawa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Marianas : 1 flag
    Shan State : 1 flag
    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    44 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    43 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    35 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    26 Sea Zone : 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 5 transports
    20 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 5 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 3 transports
    22 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    10 Sea Zone : 3 submarines
    19 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 submarines
    6 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 destroyers and 5 submarines
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 3 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    Malta : 4 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 aaGun, 7 artilleries, 2 fighters and 12 infantry
    96 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 10 transports
    93 Sea Zone : 4 submarines
    97 Sea Zone : 5 submarines
    Spain : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 3 armour, 1 factory_minor, 55 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    98 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    91 Sea Zone : 10 transports
    105 Sea Zone : 2 submarines

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 72 / 100
    Russians : 8 / 10
    Japanese : 57 / 49
    Americans : 68 / 98
    Chinese : 4 / 1
    British : 19 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 16 / 12
    ANZAC : 28 / 39
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 6 / 0

VC exist in Asia.  Axis now have 1 full turn to resolve.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :16

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from Spain to Malta
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            15 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Spain

Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Malta
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Quebec

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

That’s a strong accusation, but I will forward you the emails.  Because of this, I will also inform the Admin.

@mryogen:

I am now offically accusing you of cheating, way too battles like this to be consider due to luck.

Japanese roll dice for 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Kwangtung, round 1 :  1/9 hits

Do I now have to un-spam my email’s and double check every roll?

So let me get this straight . . .  you’re accusing someone of cheating without any proof whatsoever?  :roll:

Wait - so lets see here. You roll 1/9 on round 1 - should have 3/9. On Round 2, you rolled 2/3, instead of 1/3. In the end, you rolled 3/12 instead of average which is 4/12 and this is grounds to accuse someone of cheating???

Get real, dude…

MM

@Mallery29:

VC exist in Asia.  Axis now have 1 full turn to resolve.

I stand corrected on this.  I misspoke on the Allied Victory conditions, and for that, I apologize.  When I’m wrong, I say I’m wrong.  I need two of your capitals apparently.

My attack was also under the assumption of the VC, but it still is probably a legit attack for me to do.

http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html

I had a 99.5% chance of winning with about average loss of 15IPCs.  Under the what I thought the conditions were, I was willing to sack a plane if it came to it…but I didn’t need to.  You rolled slightly below average on Round 1.  I rolled at average for Round 1.  This isn’t cheating, it’s math.  I’m ready to send the emails to you if you haven’t found them.  I’m sorry that you are upset, but this game is far from over.

@mryogen:

Do I now have to un-spam my email’s and double check every roll?

No, you should’ve done so BEFORE making an accusation like this. What works for me is setting up a folder for the dice rolls and then setting up an autorule so that all those dicey emails automatically goes to said folder. I used to create separate folders for each game and set the auto sort to send them to the right folder, but that got to be too much of a pain and I can find the right emails just by using the search function if I had any doubts about legitimacy. Otherwise a quick glance at the titles (ie battle and round) usually suffices. Marking them as spam negates the whole purpose of the dicey emails in the first place.

Ha, this is classic a cheater calling someone else a cheat.

31126:Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Kwangtung, round 1‏       
Your dice are: 1,2,4
5:17 AM
(3 hits)

31126:Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 1
Your dice are: 3,1,6,3,1,5,5,5,5,4,5
5:17 AM
(3 hits)

31126:Japanese roll dice for 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Kwangtung, round 1‏
Your dice are: 6,4,5,6,2,6,4,5,5
5:18 AM
(1 hit)

31126:Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2‏
Your dice are: 1,1,6,2,1,4,2,2,1,1
5:18 AM
(8 hits)

31126:Japanese roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Kwangtung, round 2‏
Your dice are: 2,2,4
5:18 AM
(2 hits)

I sent you the five emails as well.  The time posted is Japan time by the way.  Let me know if you would like to continue.

Just sent Mallery my email address to forward the emails, so NO I don’t know the answer to this question yet.

A)  What dicey are you using? 
B)  Please explain to me how you think he could be altering the dicey results.

Feel free to post any relevant information as well.

Jenn,
Emails forwarded to you.