Defending aircraft on A/C with long range tech.

@andrewaagamer
Ah. I hadn’t understood that subtlety. It’s a bit like assuming that, as an attacker, I’m going to win - so, retreat isn’t an option. Thanks a lot for your help.

I’ve been lurking these forums for a bit and finally decided to join up. Anywho, just played the first A&A50 game in like 2 years a few weeks ago. Everyone went for techs. By the end of the game Japan had Radar, America had Heavy Bombers, and Russia had both Advance Artillery and war bonds.

We ended the game on German 4 when they took Moscow. America only used Heavy Bombers once, likewise Japan only used Radar once(same combat), and Russia despite having two techs still got crushed by combined German/Japan Moscow rush.

So the question is, in the long run are the techs worth the investment?

Personally I like having the options though I don’t normally bother are only buy like one tech dice a game. Still when people do get them it can have a great impact in some games, I’ve seen a G2 Sea lion a couple of times because of techs. From reading the forums most seem to favor ignoring them, but I just wanted to get a few options and see how most felt.

Why dont you use triplea for these games?  much easier to use than aabattlemap

@ShadowHAwk:

Would it not be much better and simpler to state that every move should be possible before combat is rolled?
To avoid these cheesy situations. It takes the carrier the whole turn to move 2 spots so if it does not start sailing the same time the fighters would launch they would not survive anyway.

That will severely hinder some of the tactical & strategic aspects of battles and planning and remove alot of the surprises from the game.  Regardless of how a battle turns out, one of my favorite aspects of the game is the surprise move or act of desperation that wasn’t expected or accounted for.  I’m satisfied that you can’t send your planes on a one way trip, but you CAN send them on a potentially suicidal mission.

Tech: Increased Factory Production
Nation: Germany
Use: Relax as the effectiveness of SBR is more than halved and rub hands with glee as those captured russian factories start chunking out the troops….

I think this is possible one of the most powerful techs for Germany.

Welcome Cobblepot!  AA50 is a great game.  If you run into problems finding opponents and/or time to play,
then check out AA50 Modules for Battlemap, and try PBF (Play by Forum) here on this website.

@sala33:

so planes can’t shoot subs if there is enemy Destroyer presant in same sea zone in the whole game, or is it just in this only situation with the AC.

Enemy destroyers don’t keep planes from hitting subs.  Friendly destroyers enable planes to hit subs.  If there is no destroyer friendly to the firing air unit in the battle, the air unit’s hits cannot be applied to subs.  This is always true, whether for attacking or defending.

@sala33:

Okay, Reversing the question my original question, if you’re attacking AC with fighters on board, do you use your fighters on AC in battle as well…?

You move your own fighters independently of the carrier.  They take off before either unit moves, so they both begin movement in the same sea zone.  Both fight in any battle(s) they end up in, which could be the same one or different ones.

Fighters on your carrier that belong to another power on your side stay on the carrier when it attacks and are treated as cargo.  They may not fire and may not be taken as casualties.  If the carrier they’re on is destroyed, they’re destroyed along with it.

@sala33:

*Battleship/Cruise bombarbment: If you have only ONE transporter, and in support 7 Battleships and 5 Cruisers, do all Battleships and Crusisers take place in the shore Bombarbment?

And if your transporter has your infintry and a friendly tank, do all the units get off loaded in that turn?
If so, does the friendly unit then fight with your attack on the land, or does it stay out of the battle till that players turn

When a shore bombarbment takes place and the attacker hits defending shore units, do the shore units get a chance to fire back, or are they taken off the board straight away?

1.  No.  The number of bombardments you have is limited to the number of ground troops you bring. (One transport = 2 bombards MAX).
2.  No.  Only your infantry can unload this turn.  You have to wait for your friendly ally’s turn for him to unload.
3.  Yes, they do get to fire back.