Defending aircraft on A/C with long range tech.

I thought the secret in 42, was to maintain a navy in the baltic?

I could be mistaken…

Having played some more games, I no longer really feel dat the Allies have a better chance of winning. Perhaps it just takes more games to learn how to play axis effectively.

Having NO’s on indeed makes the game more realistic and fluid, in the sense that fighting for something like australia for example really is worth the effort more. Perhaps we will try NO’s in the future, when all of our players are more experienced with the vanilla ruleset.

@squirecam:

@questioneer:

Yes, by round 4 technically.

I’ve always been of the belief that if games are ending early, either its a particularly bad dice outcome, or the other side is not playing very well.

Questions:

What did each of you buy as Germany?

When you were allies, did he attack you, or vice versa?

Q1  I bought like 4inf, 4tnk, 1ftr.  He bought something similar

Q2  Russia went too strong the first round and it backlashed quickly.  The 2nd game seemed more like the normal Eastern Front stuggle- eventual stack on either side but the Allied planes came in to defend and bomb just in the nick of time.  This is why I think Allies have the advantage.  Against a strong KGF, there are just too many fronts for the Axis to defend- the new map with chopped up territories doesn’t allow it.

I didn’t completley ignore Japan though.  I simply left a small annoying force to sail south and become a potential menace- but I put all my money and builds towards Europe.  Japan is way to slow- you need more builds to get to Russia because it takes forever.  That’s why I think the NOs help balance it out more because they help the Axis more than the Allies on the onset.

In the first game, he did have some dice whoopings.  The 2nd game seemed pretty normal.  Tech really didn’t effect the games much because the games ended fairly quickly (4 rounds).  They are a lot of fun though and pretty balanced I think because both sides can invest in them- especially with NO’s.

@Krieghund:

1st: 1984
2nd: 1986
3rd: 1997

Thanks again.

Now, I hope I will find time to describ  the evolution of the control effect of Subs on SZ.

Sounds like an awesome slugfest.

Like two fighters in the late rounds, wheeling about in the the ring backpedaling away from each other, trying to hang on, trying to land the decisive one punch to end the contest and trying not to lose the match!

I have not yet played a single game of AA50 with tech. I choosed the 6-10 games option, but I think almost as many games I played have ended rnd 5 or sooner. So for me it’s about 50%-50% split between up to 6 rnds, and more than 6 rnds.

My record for “long game” I think is 9 rnds, maybe 10.

With NOs I would be suprised if games takes longer than 10 rnds. NOs are a mechanism for shortening games, b/c one side will get substansially more money than in a game w/o NOs, as soon as they start getting the upperhand.

@claborne:

So…. when you have a fleet of mixed subs/surface warships being attacked by only planes, you CANNOT take the subs as casualties?

No, they can not be taken as casualties.  Only if the attacker sends a destroyer with his planes can your subs be removed by air attacks.

So Italy really wasn’t a large factor? Did they conquer all of Africa? What were their builds?

Italy built 1 trs and 1 CV and then mostly land units, adding 1 DD later on. Africa wasn’t important, Germany sent a tank down there which manoeuvred to avoid 2 UK infs (landings in West Africa were not done but probably would have been a good idea). Italy was a factor in that it distracted from attacking the Germans and I think a balanced approach by the US and the UK is probably more effective, i.e. landing in both Norway and Algeria, having fleets both in North/baltic sea and West Med, SBR against both Germany and Italy, and this necessitates a lot of US involvement.

For such things as India IC, this is a detail which o/c we just have to try and fail to see if it can be held, more than 4-5 rnds?

In this game there was no India IC, India survived because Japan focused on China and Australia. In an other game an IC was built and defended with the help of some Russian troops but the jury is out on if this really is viable if the Japs really go all-out vs. India. I hope there’s more UK ships to start with since that would make defending a built IC so much easier! We’ll see very shortly when we get the UK set-up.