Frozen pizza

@Imperious:

No kids. But somebody has to put their foot down to protect them from certain death, and Denny’s is it ( grim reaper of humans with death meals).

I was partial to an occasional Moon over my Hammy until i found out the salt content was off the charts. And those Hash browns taste like Kaka. Damn cheapest ingredients.

IL,

Compare it to McDonalds.

At least I can sit down and eat, without running all over the store!  And the food is better…high salt yes, but so is McDonalds…

Moms got to do what Moms got to do, don´t like Mcdonalds and the other stuff as well but if the kids like it.
I say thanks over everything we eat, and I´m not bothered If my wife serves me ones or often frozen pizza, cuz she knows to even make the best out of everything.
I can cook too but there is only one General in the kitchen allowed, so I wash the dishes  :-D.

I am not allowed to wash up, as I do such a bad job!
I am allowed to dry and put the clean things away.

You know IL… I would argue that all your pent up anger, expressed stress, social anxiety, and genuine unforgiveness is even more poisonous for your health than Denny’s.

Well i suppose you eat at Denny’s often?

And i suppose all the defensiveness for eating Kaka is inherent from poor eating habits of many posters here.

@Imperious:

You know IL… I would argue that all your pent up anger, expressed stress, social anxiety, and genuine unforgiveness is even more poisonous for your health than Denny’s.

Well i suppose you eat at Denny’s often?

And i suppose all the defensiveness for eating Kaka is inherent from poor eating habits of many posters here.

KaKa? you are sooo German.  :-D :-D

@Imperious:

Well enjoy it while you can. In a few years all that salt will screw up your heart and also cause you to require insulin…because you went for “cheap eats”

Don’t fool yourself thinking expensive food is healthier by default.  They go for flavor over anything else (except maybe atmosphere), and that relies on a lot of salt, fat, and sugar.  Since that’s what we equate with things tasting good.

And it’s dumb to say a woman can only be liberated by having a career.  Some women want to be moms, nothing wrong with that.  I know a few that juggle both a job and kids and sometimes the dad stays at home.  Because that’s what you do when you’re not a selfish asshole and have kids.

If you can’t cook and want to eat out all the time and can do so, more power to you.  But many people don’t have that ability or need to.  I love a woman that can cook, and women love men that can cook.  I think it’s pathetic if you can’t make some simple things in the kitchen.

And, it costs less and you have more control over the flavor and nutrition/dietary concerns.  It’s truly fun to experiment and try out new things, and it’s the same reason I brew beer.  One night it’s shakshuka, another it’s Guinness beef stew, another it’s spicy stir fry, and then the next it’s breakfast pizza.  It’s pretty damn liberating to craft a delicious meal from scratch, if you want my opinion.

Back at the topic at hand,  I don’t mind frozen pizza here and there, and if your wife/girlfriend has left you one, then I think it’s great she’s thinking about you.  I would prefer a homecooked meal, but I don’t expect one.

Don’t fool yourself thinking expensive food is healthier by default.

That is never my point. I was saying they have really nice restaurants ( at least in my area) that prepare very healthy meals, which taste better than you can make at home and no mess to clean up.

You can pay alot and still get crap or eat at home and still eat crap. Yes some restaurants add alot of really bad ingredients to make it taste better, but you just got to avoid those.

You can also be a selfless asshole AND HAVE KIDS. Don’t fool yourself.

I think it’s pathetic if you can’t make some simple things in the kitchen.

You can be fooled by that, but what really is going on is time is money for some people. It is not really a lack of ability but in some cases like anything else it can be.

It’s truly fun to experiment and try out new things, and it’s the same reason I brew beer.  One night it’s shakshuka, another it’s Guinness beef stew, another it’s spicy stir fry, and then the next it’s breakfast pizza.  It’s pretty damn liberating to craft a delicious meal from scratch, if you want my opinion.

Yes it’s liberating to be able to push the ON button. Agreed

I know many would be chefs that cant even make frozen pizza or boxed macaroni and cheese.    I know many in the Chicagoland area that can afford to make nothing but frozen pizza and boxed macaroni and cheese.  Hell, my eldest complained that his friend got breakfast for dinner night twice a week, when quizzed what he meant, he said “Nitten gets to eat cereal for dinner!”

Compared to “cereal for dinner” healthy food is much more expensive. :P  Assuming cereal means your typical American: Frosted, Honey, Sugar Bombs now with nothing but Marshmallows anyway.

Frozen pizza has a place on my table, as does the non-frozen varieties (home made and ordered.)  Certainly it isn’t a weekly occurance, more like twice a month we have Totinos pizza, once a month I make pizza from raw ingrediants and once a month we order Rosatis pizza.  However, I have to admit, even my home made pizza has a lot more sugar and salt than I would prefer…but c’mon it’s PIZZA!

I used to eat 4 a week when I worked with my dad.
Do you know how many friends you have and how many things you get free when you flash pizza?
I often did not pay for drinks and never paid to get into clubs.
As for after hours, well…
People in Hereford still talk about my dad’s pizze.

@Jermofoot:

And it’s dumb to say a woman can only be liberated by having a career.

That is not what I’m saying. My point is rather that being a stay at home mom who expects her husband to cook his own meals is not liberated. It is just picking and choosing the parts of equality she likes and passing off the rest. Even women with jobs seem to think the proper division of labor regarding meals is:

They cook, they clean up.

She cooks, man cleans up.

Man cooks, man cleans up.

That’s entitlement, not liberation.

Now NAWALT. Now granted perhaps some of the child rearing duties (rides to practices and lessons for example) might interfere with cooking but that isn’t what I was referring to. My objection is not to women’s liberation but to feminine double standards.

That’s fairness, I wouldn’t say that’s entitlement.

Family means that if I cook, then the husband does the dishes, the kids set and clear the table.  Division of labor, fairness.
Family means we all live in this house, therefore we all clean this house.  Kids do less cleaning obviously, and half the time we have to reclean it because they are not practiced yet, but they still have chores.
Family means if the dog poops in the house, then whoever finds it cleans it up - with help if needed - without help if small enough.  Sh!t happens, literally, get it done.

Entitlement is like Social Security.  You pay a few dollars in and feel entitled to collect for the rest of your life. 
Entitlement is feeling that you should be able to get a home mortgage even without the ability to pay it back.

Just a couple examples of what I feel are entitlement.

@Imperious:

That is never my point. I was saying they have really nice restaurants ( at least in my area) that prepare very healthy meals, which taste better than you can make at home and no mess to clean up.

You can pay alot and still get crap or eat at home and still eat crap. Yes some restaurants add alot of really bad ingredients to make it taste better, but you just got to avoid those.

You can also be a selfless asshole AND HAVE KIDS. Don’t fool yourself.

Certainly there are, but it’s not the aim for meals at restaurants.  Sure, they are getting into the healthier option now, but the number 1 reason we go out to eat is for taste.  Also, anyone that goes out an orders just salads should kill themselves.

You have far more control over your diet and nutrition at home. Some restaurants don’t even have nutritional info or will tell you the ingredients.

Also, I’m more talking about raising kids.  Nearly anyone can have kids, that’s not the hard part.

You can be fooled by that, but what really is going on is time is money for some people. It is not really a lack of ability but in some cases like anything else it can be.

Money is also money to everyone.  You can’t get a better deal eating at home.  I understand: no dishes, certain dishes can’t be made without investing in hardware/ingredients, exotic stuff that takes some time to get the recipe down.  Some people don’t change their oil even though it’s easy.  I get that.  But we’re talking about a fundamental need for everyone - it seems silly to never ever cook.  If you can get by, go for it, but you better learn quick when the zombie apocalypse comes.

Yes it’s liberating to be able to push the ON button. Agreed

Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say.  Too bad I don’t use that crap.  I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons).  It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking.  But it’s probably Greek to you.

@frimmel:

@Jermofoot:

And it’s dumb to say a woman can only be liberated by having a career.

That is not what I’m saying. My point is rather that being a stay at home mom who expects her husband to cook his own meals is not liberated. It is just picking and choosing the parts of equality she likes and passing off the rest. Even women with jobs seem to think the proper division of labor regarding meals is:

They cook, they clean up.

She cooks, man cleans up.

Man cooks, man cleans up.

That’s entitlement, not liberation.

Now NAWALT. Now granted perhaps some of the child rearing duties (rides to practices and lessons for example) might interfere with cooking but that isn’t what I was referring to. My objection is not to women’s liberation but to feminine double standards.

I was more referring to IL, and mostly agree with you, but let’s not bunch all radical feminists with women here.  In my experience, it’s been mostly equitable: whoever doesn’t cook gets to clean up.  Of course certain favors may change that rule…

@Jermofoot:

Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say.  Too bad I don’t use that crap.  I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons).  It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking.  But it’s probably Greek to you.

I would also advise anyone interested in brewing at home not to waste their time with The Beer Machine or Mr. Beer and so on. If you’re just going to go extract you can do much better than what you get with those things at a reasonable compromise on time and quality with all-grain homebrewing.

BEER to me is Big Flats.  Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too!  (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)

@Cmdr:

BEER to me is Big Flats.  Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too!  (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)

That price point is what teenagers drink and that is the definition of bargain basement. A beer costs that much even in a dive bar. There’s probably more unused hops in my freezer than hops in that swill. There’s probably more beer in my piss.

Let’s see what the Beer Snobs say.

@frimmel:

@Jermofoot:

Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say.  Too bad I don’t use that crap.  I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons).  It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking.  But it’s probably Greek to you.

I would also advise anyone interested in brewing at home not to waste their time with The Beer Machine or Mr. Beer and so on. If you’re just going to go extract you can do much better than what you get with those things at a reasonable compromise on time and quality with all-grain homebrewing.

It might be a decent way just to get an idea of things, but you’re right on the kits.  All grain is a fair jump for someone who hasn’t done anything before.

@frimmel:

@Cmdr:

BEER to me is Big Flats.  Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too!  (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)

That price point is what teenagers drink and that is the definition of bargain basement. A beer costs that much even in a dive bar. There’s probably more unused hops in my freezer than hops in that swill. There’s probably more beer in my p�ss.

Let’s see what the Beer Snobs say.

LMAO…the review of 2befree that gave it 5/5 on all categories.  Score deviation of the average by 95.3%

What hops are you using these days?  I just got my delivery of 4lbs of hops: Simcoe, Nugget, CTZ, Warrior.

I haven’t made time to brew of late and probably won’t this summer again. Hopefully I’ll do my knockoff of Old Fezziwig again this holiday season.  Big fan of Kent Goldings as I like to brew a British Bitter.

Consumer Reports and I both like it.  Far better than that swill Budweiser/Miller call beer!  And at the price, well, you cant really beat the price, can you?  I mean without getting the aluminum can with the word BEER written in black letters on it….

I just made frozen pizza. First time this month? Fast meal tastes ok.

You should drink a 2 liter Mountain Dew with that…It’s very healthy.