Oztea's 1941 Global Setup

@barnee

From my previous setup, the following changed highlighted are (DELETED NEW)

Victory Conditions:
Axis: Control 8 European Victory Cities or Control 6 Pacific Victory Cities, either one for a Complete Round of Play following the capture of the last necessary Victory City
Allies: Control 4 of [Berlin, Tokyo, Rome, Paris, Shanghai, Warsaw, Hong Kong, and Manila] for a Complete Round of Play following the capture of the last necessary Victory City

-SOVIET UNION (30 IPCs)
Russia: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanised Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Novgorod: Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Volgograd: Minor Industrial Complex, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Karelia: 2 Infantry
Archangel: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Vologda: 1 Infantry
Tambov: 1 Infantry
Caucasus: 2 Infantry
Urals: 1 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Tanks, 1 Tactical Bomber
Novosibirsk: 4 Infantry
Samara: 2 Infantry
Kazakhstan: 2 Infantry
Evenkiyskiy: 2 Infantry
Timguska: 1 Infantry
Yenisey: 2 Infantry
Yakut S.S.R.: 1 Infantry
Buryatia: 3 Infantry
Sakha: 2 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 AAA
Amur: 3 Infantry
Siberia: 3 Infantry
Soviet Far East: 1 Infantry
Iraq: Control Marker, 1 Mechanized Infantry
Northwest Persia: Control Marker
Persia: Control Marker, 1 Tank
Eastern Persia: Control Marker
Sea Zone 5: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 115: 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 127: 1 Destroyer

-EMPIRE OF JAPAN (45 IPCs)
Japan: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 4 AAA, 1 Fighter, 2 Tactical Bombers, 2 Strategic Bombers
Siam: 4 Infantry
Korea: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Okinawa: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Formosa: 1 Fighter
Paulau Island: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Strategic Bombers
Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Caroline Islands: Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Kiangsu: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 4 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Philippines: Control Marker, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Kwangtung: Control Marker, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Malaya: Control Marker, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Shan State: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 AAA
Kwangsi: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
French Indo China: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Sumatra: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Java: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Celebes: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Jehol: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Shantung: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Kiangsi: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Borneo: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Manchuria: Control Marker, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Guam: Control Marker, Air Base
Dutch New Guinea: Control Marker
New Britain: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
New Guinea: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Wake Island: Control Marker, Air Base
Gilbert Islands: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 6: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 17: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 19: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 20: 1 Transport, 2 Destroyers
Sea Zone 31: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 33: 2 Submarines, 1 Destroyer, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 35: 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 37: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 42: 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)

-UNITED STATES (52 IPCs)
Eastern United States: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Western United States: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Strategic Bomber
Central United States: Major Industrial Complex, 2 Infantry, 4 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Hawaiian Islands: Air Base, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 2 Fighters
Midway: Air Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Alaska: 2 Infantry
Iceland: 1 Fighter
Solomon Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Brazil: Control Marker
Eire: Control Marker, 1 Strategic Bomber
Sea Zone 10: 2 Transports, 1 Destroyer, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 25: 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 26: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 29: 2 Submarines, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 49: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 64: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 101: 2 Transports, 1 Battleship

-CHINA (12 IPCs)
Suiyuyan: 3 Infantry
Shensi: 1 Infantry
Szechwan: 1 Infantry
Hopei: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Kweichow: 3 Infantry
Hunan: 3 Infantry
Yunnan: 6 Infantry

-GERMAN REICH (51 IPCs)
Germany: Major Industrial Complex, 6 Infantry, 4 Artillery, 3 AAA, 1 Fighter, 2 Strategic Bombers
Poland: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical Bomber
Holland Belgium: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Norway: 3 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Denmark: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank
Western Germany: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 4 Tanks, 3 AAA, 2 Fighters, 3 Tactical Bombers
Greater Southern Germany: 4 Infantry
Slovakia Hungary: 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Tanks
Romania: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Alexandria: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
France: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Morocco: Control Marker, 3 Infantry
Normandy Bordeaux: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Finland: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Vyborg: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Baltic States: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Eastern Poland: Control Marker, 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Bessarabia: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Bulgaria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Crete: Control Marker, 1 Tactical Bomber
Belarus: Control Marker, 4 Infantry
Western Ukraine: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Ukraine: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, 4 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 AAA
Smolensk: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical Bomber
Bryansk: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Rostov: Control Marker, 3 Infantry
Sea Zone 99: 1 Transport
Sea Zone 103: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 105: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 113: 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 118: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 124: 2 Submarines

-UNITED KINGDOM (29 IPCs for Europe, 13 IPCs for Pacific)
United Kingdom: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 3 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 4 AAA, 3 Fighters, 1 Strategic Bomber
Egypt: Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Quebec: Minor Industrial Complex, 1 Infantry, 1 Tank
New Brunswick Nova Scotia: Naval Base
Iceland: Air Base
Scotland: Air Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Gibraltar: Naval Base, 1 Tactical Bomber
Malta: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Trans-Jordan: 2 Infantry
Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 Infantry
Union of South Africa: Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry
British Columbia/Western Canada: 1 Infantry
Suriname: Control Marker
Ethiopia: Control Marker
Italian Somaliland: Control Marker
Sea Zone 71: 1 Transport
Sea Zone 92: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 97: 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 98: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 106: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 109: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 110: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)
Sea Zone 111: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer, 1 Battleship
India: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 4 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Kwangtung: Naval Base, 2 Infantry
Malaya: Naval Base, 3 Infantry
West India: 1 Infantry
Burma: 2 Infantry, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Shan State: 2 Infantry
Sumatra: Control Marker
Celebes: Control Marker
Sea Zone 38: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 39: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)
Sea Zone 44: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 45: 1 Cruiser

-EMPIRE OF ITALY (18 IPCs)
Southern Italy: Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 2 AAA, 2 Fighters
Northern Italy: Major Industrial Complex, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 2 AAA, 1 Strategic Bomber
Sardinia: 1 Infantry
Sicily: 1 Infantry
Libya: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank
Albania: 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Tobruk: 3 Infantry
Western Ukraine: 1 Infantry
Rostov: 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Southern France: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 2 Infantry
Algeria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Tunisia: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Yugoslavia: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Greece: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Alexandria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 87: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 93: 1 Transport, 1 Submarines, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 94: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 95: 1 Transport, 2 Cruisers, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 96: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer

-ANZAC (10 IPCs)
New South Wales: Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA
Western Australia: 2 Infantry
Queensland: Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry
New Zealand: Air Base, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Fighters
Egypt: 2 Infantry
Malaya: 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Burma: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Sumatra: 2 Infantry
Celebes: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 54: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 63: 1 Submarine, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)

-FRENCH REPUBLIC (0 IPCs, Capital Under Occupation)
French West Africa: 1 Infantry
French Central Africa: 1 Infantry
French Equatorial Africa: 1 Infantry
Syria: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
United Kingdom: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 72: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 98: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 109: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 110: 1 Destroyer

Is it possible for this game to be set it up so that every country could fight on it’s on; with one country destroying everyone else as the only victory condition? Say, combine Italy and France (with Spain and Portugal?) and let them go first? Britain goes 2nd? And perhaps add about 1 guy to every Chinese territory? What would the outcome of THAT game look like?

@bakerbei

maybe you can get a message to him here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NHFOPGhzfI

@WILD:

@Imperious:

Well if you allow BB and CV to take 2 turns to build and pay half each turn, it makes alot of sense to buy cruisers. The 3 move is great, but not sure to give it a 4 MOVE if from a naval port.

I’m also experimenting with many more convoy zones (UK convoy routes) mostly in the Atlantic, around Africa, and the Med. I’m hoping that giving the cruiser 3 moves (4 from nb) allows the axis to use it as a convoy raider at times because it can out run (or keep pace) with the allies ships. Adding more convoy zones is also making German subs more viable as commerce raiders.

To Baron Munchhausen, yea escort or light carrier would probably be a better terms then support carrier. I’ve been using A0, D1, M2-3, C12-carries 1 plane.  You bring up a good point about many of these light carriers were built on cruiser hulls though. Being this is a new ship for me at a relatively low cost (12 IPCs) I think I will keep it with the standard move of 2-3 for now (to warrant the cruiser at 12 IPC as the only fast ship), but will probably take a 3-4 move light carrier for a spin at some point.

PS: I’m really liking the 2 turn capital ship builds, and it is making ship building pretty interesting.

I’m also thinking about limiting 2 turn capital ship builds to major ICs (exception of USA who’s minors will be majors at some point). You can drop a capital ship at one of your minor ICs, but it takes an extra turn for delivery (3 turns to build). This is basically to stop the US or Japan from building capital ships in remote places. I would allow the UK Pac, Anz, Canada etc to build capital ships at their minor ICs, but theoretically they pay for the ship, it is built in England and delivered to the minor IC over 3 turns (same concept for the other powers building at their minor ICs). I realize that you could make a point that any ship built at a minor IC should be +1 turn because most ship yards would be at in the home territory where the major IC is (looking at that too lol).

Adding CVL to Cruiser, both at M3-4, makes a way to depict the historical US Fast Task Force fleet in PTO.
I made a house rule for Convoy Raid. It works well with 1942.2 and AA50.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35687.msg1467061#msg1467061

About Pacific islands NO.
Why not require 3 amongst 4 or 4 amongst 5 Island TTs?
That way this can be an incentive to fight for one more to get some buffer TT before loosing the NO.

@oztea:

I like this idea a lot. I had a similar idea a while back, wherein to win you had to get to a certain number of points. 2 points for each capital, 1 point for each non capital VC, and 1 point for each National Objective you satisfied this turn.

You calculate the axis total, and the allied total.

Lets spit ball, the axis wins if they have 20 points at then end of turns 1-5
or they win if they have 18 points at the end of turns 6-10
or they win if they have 16 points at the end of any turn after 11 they win.

The Allies would win if the axis falls below 10 points at the end of turns 1-5.
Or if they fall below 12 points at the end of turn 6-10
Or if they fall below 14 points at the end of any turn after 11.

I’m gonna have to digest this and see how the math works in different situations, regardless… it’s great to hear from someone that believes in the points per city formula, and I really like the idea of points for objectives as well.

@Uncrustable:

I think you should play some games of G40 on here before making these assumptions.
I do, and I see many SBR involving fighters.
Germany sometimes will send 5 or more bombers on Moscow alone, where Moscow has 2-3 fighters to scramble. Odds are better that Russia will lose a fighter before Germany loses a bomber in the air combat. And  Il trade a German bomber for a Russian fighter, Russia can’t afford it.
I also see many games where G2 Germany sends 2 bombers 2-4 tac bombers and 2-4 fighters to London where there are sometimes up to 5 fighters that can scramble.
Italy will also heroically send its lone bomber to London in an attempt to disable the airbase on London before Germany’s turn.

Even with interceptors SBR is a touch too powerful in G40.
This is mainly because bombers are getting +2, meaning 1 bomber auto disables bases and minor facilities once past AA and interceptors.

I would propose taking away bombers +2, while halving tacbombers damage.
Bombers SBR at 1D6
Tacbombers SBR at 1D6 /2. Rounded up.

Now I better see why you wanted to give defending interceptor D2 instead of D1.

Attacker have the advantage of picking which units will go SBR and to concentrate firepower on a single IC.

The defenders are overwhelmed by the sheer number.
In addition, on defense you have often more than just only 1 IC to protect, and you cannot keep all the Fgs in the same territory, have to split them usually.
D2 interceptors can counterweight the advantage of attacker and hindrance of defense a bit.

Reducing attacking bombers to only 1@1  for the whole group is also a way to preserved the defending fighters against destruction by a large number of StBs. But we both know, that is not A&A standard rules, each unit usually get 1 roll…

…unless you treat StBs/TcBs the same way as AAA!!!. :-o
So each defending Fgs can never have more rolled against them than 1A@1, if there is at least the same number of StB/TcBs vs Fgs.

It can be rationalized to get an historical accuracy somehow in the way:
intercepting fighters are not able to attack all groups of StBs/TcBs flying over the territory but only one unit (flight group) at a time.
When interceptors fly around StBs they are under an intense and concentrated AA fire coming from the flying fortress. But all others group of StBs are not chasing actively Interceptors, they are just flying toward the IC/AB/NB target.
So if interceptors are overwhelmed by the StBs/TcBs, it will be in essence 1:1 combat.
1 TcBs A1 vs 1 Fg D2, all other additionnal StBs/TcBs cannot shoot anymore.
In fact, all intercepting Fgs are already busy, other StBs/TcBs have pure and simple an open road toward IC or NB/AB.

What do you think of this one?
When StBs/TcBs attack fighters on SBR air combat, they get A@1 for each StB/TcB or intercepting Fgs wichever is less.

Escorting fighter attack as usual, 1 unit get 1 roll.
Based on 1942.2, I will keep @1 First Strike
Based on G40 rule, if Interceptor has D1, then A1.

(I really wonder why I haven’t think about it, even back in the old thread about StB spam strategy. :?)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=31373.0

I’m sure…bump! :mrgreen: