Yeah, that didn’t work out at all like I planned. You were supposed to be weak enough that I could counter whatever you had left in that SZ. :|
Looking at the dice, I got marginally average dice, should’ve had 1-2 more hits. And the other two rounds were worse, culminating with a whiff from two 4s. :|
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Place Units - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
No, no, and a hundred times no. You do not get to do edits to a combat dice like this. And certainly not without asking or even saying something. You pull stuff like this and it makes me question your integrity. I will be editing that cruiser back to where you moved it during your combat move.
Seriously, do you not see how something like that could be construed as cheating? You saw the results of the battle and then edited an additional ship into the SZ? Think about how that impacts my potential (albeit likely unsuccesful) counter. Or impacts your attack potential to sz26 or elsewhere.
I now feel the need to go over the rest of your turns with a fine tooth comb to see what else I might’ve missed, you lost my trust buddy.
@seththenewb:
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
� � � � Place Units - Japanese
� � � � � � Turning on Edit Mode
� � � � � � EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
� � � � � � EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
� � � � � � EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeNo, no, and a hundred times no. You do not get to do edits to a combat dice like this. And certainly not without asking or even saying something. You pull stuff like this and it makes me question your integrity. I will be editing that cruiser back to where you moved it during your combat move.
Hey dude, look at my post asking for OOL - even BEFORE I rolled the dice for that battle, I TOLD you that somehow the cruiser had gotten put down there, and that I would be doing an edit.
I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.
IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).
All the other battles are already done.
(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)
Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.
I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.
No one has ever had reason to question anything I have done - I do all I can to be upfront, which is why I told you about the edit before the main battle dice was rolled the first round.
@seththenewb:
Seriously, do you not see how something like that could be construed as cheating? You saw the results of the battle and then edited an additional ship into the SZ? Think about how that impacts my potential (albeit likely unsuccesful) counter. Or impacts your attack potential to sz26 or elsewhere.
I now feel the need to go over the rest of your turns with a fine tooth comb to see what else I might’ve missed, you lost my trust buddy.
I understand that you feel terrible by the bad dice you got - there is nothing wrong with that. I admit I got lucky with your bad dice. However, remember Seth, we’ve always had a good tone, and I like you and enjoy playing against you both live and by email - please take a look at the post I made when I asked for OOL for the subs. I didn’t know you would be diced, so instead of making the whole turn over before rolling dice, I informed you there, before any of the important dice were rolled.
Please buddy, let’s keep our trust and our good tone - I like you too much as a player and opponent to not be on good terms with you. You know I am not a cheater.
@seththenewb:
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Place Units - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeNo, no, and a hundred times no. You do not get to do edits to a combat dice like this. And certainly not without asking or even saying something. You pull stuff like this and it makes me question your integrity. I will be editing that cruiser back to where you moved it during your combat move.
If you want to, you can check the time for the OOL post and the Marti Dice emails - and you’ll see that the information of the edit came before the dice were rolled.
I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.
IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).
All the other battles are already done.
(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)
Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.
I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.
I missed you saying that about the edit. But the fact remains that combat dice had already been rolled before you even posted that battle. You had already killed the transport, taken Java, and rolled another 3 additional battles. And you most certainly had already started rolling the Caroline battle as the attached map had the sub hits.
So, cruiser goes back.
@seththenewb:
So, cruiser goes back.
As I already said, I don’t know how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter since I was only going to kill the trannie. Must have mis-clicked first, and then later seen “oh no fighter” and then brought fighter down, not undoing the cruiser since I didn’t see I had put it there.
If you had not been diced, you would not have had any problem with it, neither would I.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :5
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 6 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Combat - Americans
Non Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
3 bombers moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
4 bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Hawaiian Islands
2 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
Place Units - Americans
1 carrier and 6 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
2 fighters placed in 10 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 26 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Hawaiian Islands: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs total
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs
@seththenewb:
I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.
IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).
All the other battles are already done.
(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)
Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.
I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.
I missed you saying that about the edit. But the fact remains that combat dice had already been rolled before you even posted that battle. You had already killed the transport, taken Java, and rolled another 3 additional battles. And you most certainly had already started rolling the Caroline battle as the attached map had the sub hits.
I could have made separate posts about it, or even reposted the entire combat turn, but since I didn’t think it would be a big deal, I did all things in one post, all before any big dice were rolled that determined that battle.
My tone in my post about it should reveal that I didn’t think it would be a big deal, since we have always had a good tone, and that it was clearly not something I intended to do.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :5
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
Non Combat Move - Chinese
Place Units - Chinese
2 infantry placed in Kansu
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs total
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :5
Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;
Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
British take Libya from Italians
1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
1 bomber moved from Egypt to Gibraltar
1 fighter moved from 103 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan
1 fighter moved from India to Shan State
Combat - British
Battle in Shan State
British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Battle in Yunnan
British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Battle in Morocco
Non Combat Move - British
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Suriname to Brazil
British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India
1 fighter moved from Shan State to India
1 infantry moved from India to Burma
1 infantry moved from India to Burma
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
Place Units - British
1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt
1 destroyer placed in 109 Sea Zone
1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
Turn Complete - British
British collect 37 PUs; end with 42 PUs total
Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
Place Units - UK_Pacific
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs total
Some Units in India change ownership: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
@seththenewb:
So, cruiser goes back.
As I already said, I don’t know how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter since I was only going to kill the trannie. Must have mis-clicked first, and then later seen “oh no fighter” and then brought fighter down, not undoing the cruiser since I didn’t see I had put it there.
If you had not been diced, you would not have had any problem with it, neither would I.
I can’t know what went on in your head, I just know what the program tells me you did. You moved the cruiser in after the fighter was already in the SZ. Maybe you thought you’d get a support shot and still kill the transport, I dunno. Clearing the tran was the 2nd ‘battle’ and you didn’t say anything about it until the 6th battle was already rolling.
@seththenewb:
I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.
IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).
All the other battles are already done.
(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)
Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.
I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.
I missed you saying that about the edit. But the fact remains that combat dice had already been rolled before you even posted that battle. You had already killed the transport, taken Java, and rolled another 3 additional battles. And you most certainly had already started rolling the Caroline battle as the attached map had the sub hits.
I could have made separate posts about it, or even reposted the entire combat turn, but since I didn’t think it would be a big deal, I did all things in one post, all before any big dice were rolled that determined that battle.
My tone in my post about it should reveal that I didn’t think it would be a big deal, since we have always had a good tone, and that it was clearly not something I intended to do.
Anything that smacks of combat edits IS a big deal. I don’t have an issue with edits for noncom or hey I forgot to walk into this terr or whathaveyou and I hope to continue playing this way. But you will not win on this issue, you know the points I’ve raised have merit. I did not attack your Caroline fleet with it being down that cruiser. Regardless whether the dice rolled were ‘big dice’ or not, dice rolls are dice rolls.
Italy is up and the cruiser is back in sz42.
@seththenewb:
@seththenewb:
So, cruiser goes back.
As I already said, I don’t know how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter since I was only going to kill the trannie. Must have mis-clicked first, and then later seen “oh no fighter” and then brought fighter down, not undoing the cruiser since I didn’t see I had put it there.
If you had not been diced, you would not have had any problem with it, neither would I.
I can’t know what went on in your head, I just know what the program tells me you did. You moved the cruiser in after the fighter was already in the SZ. Maybe you thought you’d get a support shot and still kill the transport, I dunno. Clearing the tran was the 2nd ‘battle’ and you didn’t say anything about it until the 6th battle was already rolling.
I didn’t think it would be that big of a deal. If I had thought it would cause accusations of cheating etc, I would of course have changed the combat move post before I started rolling the battles. But since we’ve always had a good tone, and we’re both lenient when it comes to edits as long as they’re reasonable, I didn’t think I would have to cover my back.
You can stick to your right in this, since though your first accusations of cheating have been retracted, I technically didn’t INFORM you of it until the point where I made the post about OOL.
But the fact of the matter is, 2 hours before your bad luck hit you in the battle, before I had any idea what the outcome of the battle would be, you were informed of the edit in a friendly manner.
If you absolutely insist on using your technical right to not let me edit, since I in good faith of our mutual gentlemen’s understanding just casually informed you of it without thinking it would come back to hit me like this, I will respect that. But I can’t say that it reflects the attitude of games that I enjoy the most. You’ve always been on my “like” list, and I hope that we can continue playing together in a friendly manner.
If you had not been diced, you would not have had any problem with it, neither would I.
Not true. Had you been weaker in sz33, I most definitely would try to hit you there and I would’ve protested the edit of your cruiser in that sz just as vigorously if not more so.
