L13 G40 Whackamatt (Allies +8) vs AlexGreat

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
            1 artillery moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya

Combat - Italians
            Battle in French Equatorial Africa
                Italians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber
                French defend with 1 infantry; British defend with 2 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber in French Equatorial Africa, round 1 :  3/5 hits
                    French roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in French Equatorial Africa, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French , 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in French Equatorial Africa
                Italians win, taking French Equatorial Africa from French with 3 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Libya
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Libya, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Libya
                Italians win, taking Libya from French with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 81 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 81 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 81 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 81 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 81 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 81 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 81 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 81 Sea Zone
                retreated to 81 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Iraq
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Iraq, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                Italians win, taking Iraq from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from French Equatorial Africa to Egypt

Place Units - Italians
            2 submarines placed in 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Romania: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Northern Italy: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair 5 damage on 5 factory_minors; Remaining resources: 58 PUs;
            Germans buy 2 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            8 armour, 4 artilleries, 14 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                  Germans take Ukraine from Russians
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel

Combat - Germans
            Germans creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 1 :  4/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Smolensk
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 4 artilleries, 14 infantry and 20 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 4 artilleries, 14 infantry and 20 mech_infantrys in Smolensk, round 1 :  12/46 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk
                Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 8 armour, 4 artilleries, 14 infantry and 20 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            1 artillery moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Archangel to Eastern Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland

Place Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 infantry placed in France
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Iraq: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Egypt: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5
            Germans collect 53 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 53 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

you really want to keep Sumatra :)

Looking forward to Russia!

I think its better to ask for OOL in this battle. One hit from my ships so far, pls let me know if its the bomber (worst defense) or a land unit (cheapest).

Can you give me the subseqeuent OOL as well, or do you want it to do round by round?

there is no return fire yet……there should not be one, I saved before that!!!

Just checked again, my game is still at the naval bombardment casualty selection. Where did you see the five, dice server?

You should have just told me what you select. I think it is convention that the attacker gives the input and rolls all the dice, so please let me continue with my land attack rolls and then your defensive rolls.
I dont know how many hits I scored with my land units, but I rather do not want to know…please let me know whats your opinion on how we proceed.

Just to make one thing clear, I would never accuse you of doing it multiple times. Also, as a principle, I never check dice server rolls, and will not this time. I dont believe anyone here would cheat.
I was surprised because I never experienced this way of handling casualties, and I seem to recall reading that only the attacker rolls.

I am unhappy because I dont think it should be handled this way, principally, but lets continue.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour moved from Sakha to Siberia
                  Japanese take Siberia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Siberia to Amur
            1 mech_infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Kweichow to Hopei
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Hopei
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Hopei
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Hopei
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Sumatra
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
                  Japanese take Sikang from Chinese
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Kwangsi

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hopei
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Hopei, round 1 :  3/6 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hopei, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry
            Battle in Jehol
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Jehol
                Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Amur
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Amur, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Amur, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Amur
                Japanese win, taking Amur from Russians with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Sumatra
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 3 fighters; British defend with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber; Americans defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 1 cruiser in Sumatra, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sumatra, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sumatra, round 1 :  5/8 hits
                    1 bomber owned by the British , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British , 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans , 1 infantry owned by the Japanese , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese , 1 infantry owned by the Americans , 1 fighter owned by the Japanese , 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sumatra
                Americans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                2 bombers owned by the Japanese retreated
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 41 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Sumatra to Malaya
            1 bomber moved from Sumatra to Malaya
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Sakha
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to 20 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to 20 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to Kiangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Amur to Manchuria
            1 aaGun moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Hopei
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Kiangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Kiangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Kiangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            1 transport placed in 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Kwangtung
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria
            4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs total

No, its done now, all rolls made, go on pls. I dont want to look for this reference, and it might not even be in the league thread. From now on just attacker rolling, thats the only consequence I ask for.