What are some clever bids for the Pacific board?

A bomber for Russia would be nice to pick up on transports (can declare war from the get go)

Ill just spit out the genius bid then, since you guys dont see it.

Thought I keep my moves to myself forever, but I recon now that the norwegian league is done everyone there knows it after all. I did win after all, took me 17 hours in last game though. Hehe.

Two possibilities:

1. Bid 3inf yunnan and fly in russian air. Strange think league doesent prohibit this move, there should be a restriction of 1 unit per place. Well any other bid will come out short. It is much the same as to be allowed bid 3inf in ukraine in revised.

2. If restriction 1unit per place then bid yunnan inf and Moscow fgt. Always a big sucsess, I rarly use it as its so OP that some players will get angry. Save china then fly back and kill half a german unit every turn with airstrike.

Here bid 13 or higher died, R.I.P.

@ErwinRommel:

1. Bid 3inf yunnan and fly in russian air. Strange think league doesent prohibit this move, there should be a restriction of 1 unit per place. Well any other bid will come out short. It is much the same as to be allowed bid 3inf in ukraine in revised.

I saw Cow mention something like that somewhere, and yeah its a good one.  Chances are the Russians escape and China gets 3 artillery up front and the NO.  But couldn’t you do almost as good with 2 artillerys in Kweichow & Szechwan?  Liberate Yunnan with infantry and the fighter as usual, and move both artillery and the rest of the infantry and fighter up to Shensi?

I like the 1 unit per territory rule because it would kill exploits like that Yunnan move but still allow a UK player with an $8 bid to add 1 infantry to Scotland and London, with $2 in the bank to build 10 infantry.

And yeah that kills a bid  >$12

Japanese planes in Kwangsi can’t hit Shensi unless they build an airbase J1.  Most Chinese could just go to Sikang instead then

ErwinRommel. you know if japan comes at a yunnan with 7 infantry, they can attack with 3 inf 1 arty 1 fig 1 tactical 2 bombers… they walk out with 4 units usually right?

I suppose you put russian air on yunnan to make things hard for japan.
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On triple A it is usually agreed 1 unit per territory.  Some people restrict china to no bids simply because China cannot buy most units.

Yes it is full cheese to do this. Good cheese though.

If your opponent doesn’t j1, you can build a US tranny in Phil and work your way to Persia.

How would you know Japan isn’t doing a J1?

Very dangerus bid, Japan should sink the tranny.

If Japan doesn’t DOW J1, can the US NCM troops to Burma with the Brits when not at war or would they have to stay on the transport?

I thought the U.S. had to end it’s movement off of U.S. Territory?

Not in the Pacific.  I routinely ship units to the SZ off of Queensland while the US is neutral.  You just can’t end movement in a SZ adjacent to (original?) Japanese held territory.

Persia is an interesting play there though.  I didn’t think about that- what turn could you get there?  Building a minor IC there as US could be game changing, but if its like turn 6 before you can build units than it may do more harm than good.

may want to try this in a future game, but most of my opponents attack J1 anyway.

We used to do this Persia manuever all the time.

But I thought the alpha rules forbade it?

After Minor IC, whats the buy there?  Soo many things needed, but can only buy 3.  Tanks? Planes? Ships?

@Eggman:

@Gargantua:

We used to do this Persia manuever all the time.

But I thought the alpha rules forbade it?

Even if they did, nothing in the 2e rules prevents it.� You just have to be able to move freely in the Europe board which won’t happen until the US is at war.

Well EGGMAN it turns out you’re completely WRONG ;)

The 2e rules specifically prevent it.

Please see page #10.

http://www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-Europe-1940-Second-Edition.pdf

While it remains neutral, in addition to the normal restrictions (see “Powers Not at War with One Another,” page 15), the United States may end the movement of its sea units only in sea zones that are adjacent to US territories, with one exception: US warships (not transports) may also conduct long-range patrols into sea zone 102.

Unless you are at war with Japan it cannot be done.

Because being at war on one board, vs being at war on another board have no relation to each other.