"Who you gonna call?"

@balungaloaf:

not many. i count two.  and then it took a thousand+ years and america to bring it back.

and both democracies spawned civilizations which had a great impact for the world and knowledge and spreading of ideas.  same with america.

yeah, and then they fell… are we going to fall? It’s hard to determine whether or not a nation with such an amazing amount of power will fall. Yet, history has proven every nation has… Roman… Ottoman… French… German… they all went down.

Don’t worry, I have my fingers crossed for us.

Ooops off topic.

Oookay,…

“Professor Rape!” “No.” “Professor death!” “No.” “Professor Anthrax!”  “I like it!”

“My hovercraft is full of eels.”  “Do you waannnt to go back to my place, bouncy-bouncy?”

Yea, well, now you see why I re-enlisted, CC.  Easier working days, less responsibility, much better benefits, a lot less stress, longer life expectancy….

Ah well…I hear teaching’s a breeze compared to being a senior project manager…

Good points, but what if you applied it to abortion as we have applied other parts or added ammendments for blacks, hmm?

@cystic:

@Deviant:Scripter:

I believe the situation could have easily gone on for a matter of years, and we’d still have to use military force eventually. If not with Saddam, it would’ve been against one of his psychotic kids.

I believe, in the wake of 9/11, most people would be MUCH MORE hesitant about giving a guy like that more time to disarm, especially given the 12 years he’s already had. The circumstances and potential consequences are just too great to sit by and watch…HOPING one day he’ll have a dramatic change of mind.

Does anybody deny that the only reason Saddam even “agreed” to inspections was because the US military was parked on his border?

i will agree with that. I’ll also agree that it was costing the US a fortune to park the machine there. Furthermore, i’ll agree that many other nations, particularly Canada and European nations (including Russia) helped speed this conflict along by being sideline wimps. I think that if more pressure had come from the international community much earlier, this war may have been avoided - if only because Bush would have lost his excuses to invade (although the regime change card would likely have still been played). Still, although i have little other than my gut to go on here, i believe that this is not a reason for a bunch of people carrying guns to march into someone else’s country in order to kill a bunch of other people . . . .

All true. I just don’t see how war could’ve been avoided in the end, without letting Saddam Hussein pretty much have his way for an indefinite amount of time.

JMO–a lot of great observations here from the other side as well.

Ozone27

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What did the CA legislature do about this idea? :-?