Odonis (Axis) vs Boldfresh (Allies +11) G40L No Tech

Scramble to 112 or intercept the bombing raid?

everyone missed in the air battle.  tripleA runs bombing incorrectly.  each facility should fire separately at the planes sent to bomb it, but tripleA rolls all of them together and allows the attacker to choose whatever they wish.  the only way you can keep me from disabling your AB if i send a tac and a strat at the base is for you to hit both aa shots from the AB.

now i am sending 4 strat bombers to the IC and tac/strat to the AB.

the first four dice from the left will be aa fire from the IC, the last two dice (far right two) will be aa fire from the AB.  if the last two dice hit, they AB will not be disabled.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            5 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Spain to Western Germany
            3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Spain to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 100 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Caucasus
            5 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to Caucasus
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Spain to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway

Combat - Americans
            Air Battle in Western Germany
                Americans attacks with 6 units heading to Western Germany
                Germans launches 2 interceptors out of Western Germany
                    Defenders Fire,  :  0/2 hits
                    Attackers Fire,  :  0/6 hits
                Air Battle is over, the remaining Bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany
                    AA guns fire in Western Germany :  1/6 hits
                1 bomber killed by AA guns
                Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 8,5,7 and causes: 20 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 5,6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
                Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 26 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: factory_major = 20, airfield = 6
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 112 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Greece from Italians with 3 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  4/5 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Battle in Norway
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 6 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 6 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 1 :  2/7 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
                Americans win, taking Norway from Germans, taking Caucasus from Italians with 6 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 carriers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Turkey
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Turkey
            3 fighters moved from Caucasus to 100 Sea Zone
            4 bombers moved from Western Germany to Spain
            3 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
            4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            2 infantry moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            1 carrier and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 1 fighter moved from 50 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in Spain
            1 destroyer placed in 91 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 85 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    British Columbia : 2 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 2 tactical_bombers
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 4 fighters, 1 harbour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    28 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 transport
    10 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 2 destroyers
    63 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers and 2 cruisers
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Norway : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag
    Caucasus : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    112 Sea Zone : 3 submarines and 1 transport
    100 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 3 fighters and 2 transports
    Turkey : 3 fighters
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Brazil : 1 flag
    Spain : 1 flag, 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    91 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 3 transports
    110 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 65 / 91
    Russians : 0 / 0
    Japanese : 69 / 69
    Americans : 65 / 85
    Chinese : 0 / 2
    British : 29 / 37
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 11
    Italians : 14 / 23
    ANZAC : 21 / 32
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 8 / 0

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :8

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2,6,1,6
            UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Territory Summary for UK_Pacific :

Formosa : 1 flag
    India : 1 factory_major
    Malaya : 1 harbour

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 91
    Russians : 0 / 0
    Japanese : 66 / 69
    Americans : 65 / 85
    Chinese : 0 / 2
    British : 37 / 34
    UK_Pacific : 11 / 9
    Italians : 13 / 23
    ANZAC : 21 / 32
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 8 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 6 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 6 times
            4 was rolled 6 times
            5 was rolled 5 times
            6 was rolled 9 times
        Average roll : 3.575
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 0.359
        Standard Deviation : 0.599
        Total rolls : 40

Null / Other
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.727
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.300
        Standard Deviation : 1.140
        Total rolls : 11

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.727
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.300
        Standard Deviation : 1.140
        Total rolls : 11

Germans Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.600
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.750
        Standard Deviation : 1.323
        Total rolls : 5

British Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.308
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.750
        Standard Deviation : 0.866
        Total rolls : 13

Odonis:  RIDICULOUS dice aside, you should never and I mean NEVER choose casualties and continue a battle like that.  I am doing things you apparently have no idea of and would have chosen the first round casualties very differently.  i would have taken 2 hits to SINK 1 acc, then i would have lost a british fighter.

So, as you can see, that would SIGNIFICANTLY change the battle.  you certainly would have gone a round 2, in which i would have taken the three hits as 3 more fighters.  now, it is round 3 and you have 1 ftr remaining and i have 2 acc, bat, and a ftr.  you can choose to go a 3rd round if you wish.

now, if you don’t believe i would have chosen the round 2 casualties that way because you were getting so many hits, then feel free to reroll my second round defense, which would be:

Rolls: 2@2 5@4; Total Hits: 32@2: (6, 1)5@4: (1, 6, 6, 6, 2)

I am NOT rolling it here, again these are NOT official dice, but this is how you will continue the battle if you wish.  Roll the dice on this thread for my second round if you like.

so, the odds are that i will get between 3 and 4 hits.  but if you reroll, i might get less or more.  you can leave round 2 as rolled and continue with a round 3 if you wish, your fighter against my 2 acc, ftr, bat.

@Boldfresh:

so, the odds are that i will get between 3 and 4 hits.  but if you reroll, i might get less or more.  you can leave round 2 as rolled and continue with a round 3 if you wish, your fighter against my 2 acc, ftr, bat.

to be clear, it does not matter to me whether you want to reroll the second round defense or leave it as already rolled.  you can then choose to continue the battle or retreat.

@Boldfresh:

@Boldfresh:

so, the odds are that i will get between 3 and 4 hits.  but if you reroll, i might get less or more.  you can leave round 2 as rolled and continue with a round 3 if you wish, your fighter against my 2 acc, ftr, bat.

to be clear, it does not matter to me whether you want to reroll the second round defense or leave it as already rolled.  you can then choose to continue the battle or retreat.

and in general, NEVER do what you did again.  it’s a very poor practice that will create all kinds of unneeded controversy.  you are lucky in this case that pretty much nothing you do will result in me losing this game, but that will (hopefully) not always be the case for you.

geez just realized in all the excitement that i forgot to take scotland, thereby throwing away another SEVEN ipc  :roll: lol

here’s the map.  you cant continue the battle if you want or i can proceed with this map - you just say the word.

trust me, this is better for you.  there is no possible way you can win this game, even incredible dice like that won’t do it.  and if i let you choose my casualties in battles like that, you would be robbed of a good learning opportunity.  :-)

@Odonis:

Hey mate, let’s just leave as is with my FTR retreating and your edits. Game back on!

ok sounds fine to me.

cheers