Suprise Attack vs Variance. Axis vs Allies G. 40 No bid No tech

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 marines; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 11 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 27 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Western United States 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone Americans undo move 1. 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 marine placed in Central United States 1 marine placed in Western United States 2 carriers placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 56 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 98 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 94 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 114 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 battleship moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 fighter moved from Burma to Baluchistan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Baluchistan 1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 4 infantry and 1 marine placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 4 infantry and 1 marine

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.00 Italians regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 1.67 British regular : 0.83

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 destroyer, 7 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Trigger Russians Allied Americans 1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 4 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians Combat - Germans Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 22 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 22 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 12/33 hits, 8.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 22 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber French defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from French with 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in 94 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 94 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 112 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21 Casualties for Germans: 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery Casualties for French: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 88 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Libya 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany 3 aaGuns moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium 5 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia 1 bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 infantry placed in Southern France 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 infantry placed in France 2 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 93 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.33 Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 4.83 British regular : -0.50

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I’ll check the peirce Sealion game, but Sealion balance was already tweaked during initial playtesting. Keep in mind that Russia is significantly stronger in PTV than in BM as well. In our game, you could have stacked Romania with Russia by landing Allied air early on in the game, and that would have yielded a 15 PU delta that Germany would struggle to clear for a while.

PTV has existed for 5 years, and most games I’ve seen haven’t been Sealion.

Also isn’t this game proof that Sealion isn’t overpowered? Unless you feel I didn’t execute it well.

@simon33 said in MyyGames (Allies+55) vs Simon33 (X) OOB Low Luck:

Great play. I wasn;t sure about all the USSR inf bid but they have changed the Eastern Front I think. I really can’t see recovering from being this far behind. Volgograd troops need to run from here I think. Urgh. Grabbing the 5 propaganda territories was a boon for you. Perhaps I shouldn’t have gone J1 with the Yunnan stack but I am not sure about that one. You’re going to hold Java too, unfortunately that could have been held with a couple of planes, at least for another turn.

Will post. I once played low luck G40 as allies+80 and it seemed like a fairly narrow win. I don’t think this is a very narrow win with only +55, Not completely sure why but there it is.

Thank you for the game, sir.

Yeah, the ussr bid was kind of experimental. I wanted to play yunnan and then thought to further boost ussr might enable them to survive better and become stronger earlier. Worked out quite good. I think you did not manage the 125 objective too good, I was able to grab that several times when it could have been prevented. That added to ussr strength of course. Think you are a BM player after all, and the NOs change with that. Even more glad you played me in lowluck!

I agree that J3 should be preferred against the yunnan stack. At least I do prefer it. It is hard for Japan to manage this Chinese units additionally, even though you did a great job in preserving and massing these Japanese, still it is limiting if you cannot focus enough air early on.

Thanks for the game! Good luck at the tables!

@crockett36 said in crocket36 (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis+6) French Rebalance:

You haven’t had the best luck this game!

Perhaps not but I think axis have the edge is in this version yet I got a bid. In version 2 the allies had the edge though. Guess that shows it is close to balanced with these changes, an achieve some love more than others.

@Booper full scramble. Max D and lose ANZAC fig before UK

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Archangel to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone Combat - Russians Battle in 127 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Battle in Novgorod Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 factory_minor Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 26 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia 2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Persia to Russia 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi 1 aaGun and 12 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Volgograd 1 fighter and 9 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.50 Russians regular : 1.00

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@oysteilo Yep, that’s no problem