13L G40 Boldfresh vs. Jeff28 (Allies +11)

@Boldfresh:

now, to me, the honorable thing to do here is to take your medicine like a man

This is an ironic statement coming from you. Perhaps you should browse back a few pages where you begged and guilt tripped me into an re-do I didn’t want to make.

You then won’t allow me the same courtesy a few turns later?

If you aren’t allowing me an edit, then the game should be reset to the Italian turn as it was originally played.

Then YOU can “take it like a man”.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

From those bombers you took Spain and put 20 ipcs of damage at least on London.

Inconsequential, yes sure.

In the matter of a couple turns you can argue both sides of a case. Amazing hypocrisy.

I would have never allowed you edit had I known your true colors.

You guys should ask for a moderator to make a decision at this point.

Hate to see 2 nice guys have hard feelings over something like this -

you’re at an impasse if neither of you will give in.  Time to get help from someone with the authority.

I am now sure that you intended to use the “illegal move” argument to give you a chance to cheat, then guilt tripped me and I was gulliable enough to fall for it.

It’s amazing how you sleep at night.

@Jeff28:

I am now sure that you intended to use the “illegal move” argument to give you a chance to cheat, then guilt tripped me and I was gulliable enough to fall for it.

It’s awfully bold to go ahead and suggest that an opponent is cheating when he catches himself making an illegal move.

Why don’t you boys stop bantering and just wait for the moderator, and then play out the game like gentlemen.

This is just getting uglier and uglier, because you’re both stubbornly holding on to your positions.  Let the moderator decide, and the loser of the moderator decision needs to accept it and you all move on and put it past you.  If you don’t trust each other anymore, that’s fine, just don’t play each other voluntarily again.

Now how’s our battle in India going to go, I wonder?  :-)

By the way, for the sake of order and to prevent “I thought YOU were going to do it”

Who is contacting a moderator, and which moderator?

If neither of you has yet, I can contact one for you.

I checked - Darth was last active 2 days ago.  You shouldn’t have to wait long.

I hope you won’t be upset with me if I did not present the situation exactly the way you would have liked (either of you).  I have never even opened the map.  I know what I know just from reading (part of) your arguments here on the thread.

You will probably get a chance to give your side of the story to Darth anyway, and he can look at the game situation as necessary.

Accepts an edit then turns around and says F U.

Seen this happen on battlemaps when people give fighters extra movements and the other dude calls em out on it.

Guess this is not a casual game.

That’s pretty much my argument in a nutshell.

I imagine I can’t win as ethics and sportsmanship aren’t required.

This game got out of hand.

Just so you guys know I’ve never played a whole game of G40 and have only played a grand total of one Germany turn maybe a year ago.  Although this looks more like a dispute over process rather than a rules breach (if I read the last few pages correctly).  I could probably rule on that.  But first
Jen usually takes care of all G40 league issues.  So I’m going to ask her to check in on it just in case she already has standing order in these types of disputes.

Locked for now.

In regards to the abysmal showing and the agreement on page 17 of this thread:

1. If the battle had been played legally, and this is just for future reference, those units that could make it to battle legally would be the only units used, and they would be required to engage in at least one round of combat.
2. As per league rules, you two made a deal to account for the discrepency, from what I read you were both content with it, so the matter is considered a legal move in that specific instance. 
   Therefore, I am not going to use this instance to influence my decision.

In regards to the axis/ally naval engagement that is the latest hiccup:

1. Can-opening is a legal tactic in AAG40.  Further, I would consider can-opening to not only be legal, but to be integral to how the game is played!
2. No one is alleging that the pieces engaged in the battle:
   2a) Cannot make it to the battle    OR
   2b) Were inaccurately displayed on the map.
   Therefore, I assume this is a legal engagement where one player made a disasterous mistake and it was caught by the other player.
3. This is a league game.  League games and Tournament games I call “for profit” games as you may achieve some gain by engaging in them.  Specifically, fame here.

That said, had this been a game for fun, where two players were just playing to play, I would tell you both to get the heck over it, shake hands, give Boldfresh a gentleman’s win, but reset the game back to America’s non-combat movement turn and continue play.  Unfortunately, this is a game for profit, so I have to say either hope the dice are REALLY good to the Americans, or forfeit.  Sorry to be a royal b!tch about it, and I hope there are no hard feelings, but a decision has to be made.

Please let me know within 72 hours what your decision is (play on as the board is, or forfeit the game/he forfeited the game.)