I got overly aggressive with that Korea Landing and I think it could have been the losing move.
13L G40 Boldfresh vs. Jeff28 (Allies +11)
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 21 PUs;Combat Move - Americans
1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
Russians take Siberia from Japanese
1 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Sakha
Russians take Sakha from Japanese
6 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia
3 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia
7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Union of South Africa to French West Africa
1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
Americans take French Indo China from Japanese
1 bomber moved from Korea to Japan
1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 4 carriers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
7 infantry moved from Brazil to Venezuela
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to MoroccoCombat - Americans
Battle in Eastern Persia
Americans attack with 9 fighters
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 9 fighters in Eastern Persia, round 1 : 3/9 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Persia, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Eastern Persia
Americans win with 9 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Strategic bombing raid in Japan
AA guns fire in Japan : 0/1 hits
Bombing raid in Japan rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in Japan causes 5 damage total.
Battle in Morocco
Americans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 2 cruisers in Morocco, round 1 : 1/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Morocco
Americans win, taking Morocco from Japanese with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - Americans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Venezuela: 7 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to British Guiana: 7 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
9 fighters moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
1 bomber moved from Japan to Korea
2 submarines moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea ZonePlace Units - Americans
1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 101 Sea ZoneTurn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 66 PUs; end with 87 PUs total
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 102 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 112 PUsTerritory Summary for Americans :
Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
Korea : 1 bomber
Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
Philippines : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
Guam : 1 airfield
Western United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
Midway : 1 airfield
Sakha : 1 armour
Siberia : 1 infantry
French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
43 Sea Zone : 1 flag
37 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
35 Sea Zone : 1 flag
39 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
26 Sea Zone : 1 flag
6 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines
Central United States : 1 factory_major
Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
Gibraltar : 1 armour, 8 artilleries and 15 infantry
British Guiana : 7 infantry
Morocco : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
French West Africa : 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
Chile : 1 flag
Afghanistan : 1 flag
80 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 1 cruiser, 8 destroyers, 7 submarines and 4 transports
93 Sea Zone : 1 flag
Argentina : 1 flag
101 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines
Brazil : 1 flag
Venezuela : 1 flag
Persia : 9 fighters
91 Sea Zone : 8 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 6 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 13 transports
105 Sea Zone : 3 submarinesProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 52 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 32 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 63
British : 32 / 33
UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
Italians : 21 / 26
ANZAC : 28 / 33
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 63 PUs;Combat Move - Chinese
Non Combat Move - Chinese
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 86 PUs totalTerritory Summary for Chinese :
Shantung : 1 flag
Kwangsi : 1 flag, 8 infantry
Kiangsu : 1 flag, 9 infantry
Kiangsi : 1 flag
Jehol : 1 flag
Manchuria : 1 flag, 5 infantry
Yunnan : 13 infantry
Kansu : 1 infantry
Tsinghai : 1 infantry
Sikang : 1 infantry
Kwangtung : 1 fighter and 14 infantryProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 52 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 32 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 86
British : 32 / 33
UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
Italians : 21 / 26
ANZAC : 28 / 33
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Purchase Units - British
British repair 6 damage on 3 factory_majors and 3 harbours; Remaining resources: 27 PUs;
British buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to French Equatorial Africa
British take French Equatorial Africa from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
British take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Saudi Arabia to Trans-Jordan
British take Trans-Jordan from Germans
1 infantry moved from Iraq to Syria
British take Syria from Germans
2 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Union of South Africa to Persia
1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to West India
British take Eastern Persia from Japanese
UK_Pacific take West India from JapaneseCombat - British
Battle in Northwest Persia
British attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Germans defend with 1 infantry
British roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Northwest Persia, round 1 : 4/7 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwest Persia
British win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - British
6 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
2 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to United KingdomPlace Units - British
3 infantry placed in Iraq
3 infantry placed in Persia
British undo move 1.
6 infantry placed in United KingdomTurn Complete - British
British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs totalTurn Complete - UK_Pacific
Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :
West India : 7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
Iceland : 1 airfield
Quebec : 1 factory_minor
Trans-Jordan : 1 infantry
Gibraltar : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 harbour, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
Union of South Africa : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Scotland : 1 airfield
Kenya : 1 infantry
Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
United Kingdom : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 infantry
Rhodesia : 3 infantry
French Equatorial Africa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Syria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
80 Sea Zone : 4 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport
Mozambique : 1 flag
Saudi Arabia : 1 flag
106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
Eire : 1 flag
Angola : 1 flag
Iraq : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
Eastern Persia : 1 flag
Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 2 infantry
Persia : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 6 fighters, 13 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
98 Sea Zone : 1 flag
91 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 5 transports
105 Sea Zone : 1 submarineProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 50 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 28 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 86
British : 36 / 36
UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
Italians : 21 / 26
ANZAC : 28 / 33
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Italians
2 bombers moved from Spain to United KingdomCombat - Italians
Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
AA guns fire in United Kingdom : 0/2 hits
Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 7,3 and causes: 10 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 10 damage total.Non Combat Move - Italians
2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Spain
3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia
1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 91 Sea Zone
4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to GreecePlace Units - Italians
1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 91 Sea ZoneTurn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,5,3,4,5,4,4,4
Italians collect 17 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 17 PUs total
Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUsTerritory Summary for Italians :
Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Southern France : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Northern Italy : 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
Southern Italy : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Caucasus : 1 flag
Greece : 1 flag, 4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
Yugoslavia : 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
Spain : 1 flag, 4 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
91 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transportProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 50 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 28 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 86
British : 36 / 36
UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
Italians : 21 / 27
ANZAC : 28 / 33
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
Jeff, I promise you are not going to soon forget this game.
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - ANZAC
1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
1 bomber moved from Korea to JapanCombat - ANZAC
Battle in Malaya
Battle in Formosa
Battle in Shan State
Strategic bombing raid in Japan
AA guns fire in Japan : 1/1 hits
1 bomber killed by AA guns
Bombing raid in Japan causes 0 damage total.Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Philippines to Korea
3 fighters moved from Philippines to French Indo China
2 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to PersiaPlace Units - ANZAC
1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Queensland
1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone
1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry placed in Korea
2 infantry placed in New South WalesTurn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUsTerritory Summary for ANZAC :
Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun
Formosa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Korea : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
Shan State : 1 flag, 2 infantry
Malaya : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Borneo : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Queensland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
New South Wales : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
Philippines : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
French Indo China : 3 fighters
Celebes : 1 flag
Java : 1 flag
Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
42 Sea Zone : 1 flag
41 Sea Zone : 1 flag
37 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 transports
20 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
6 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 transport
54 Sea Zone : 1 transport
80 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
Persia : 3 fightersProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 50 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 23 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 86
British : 36 / 36
UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
Italians : 21 / 27
ANZAC : 33 / 43
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
Game History
Round :14
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
Territory Summary for French :
United Kingdom : 2 infantry
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 50 / 81
Russians : 27 / 29
Japanese : 23 / 35
Americans : 66 / 112
Chinese : 23 / 86
British : 36 / 36
UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
Italians : 21 / 27
ANZAC : 33 / 43
French : 2 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 0 / 0 -
I’d like to re-do USA, I miscounted from S. africa to 91. Thought my air could get there and it’s screwed up my whole strategy.
I’ll put the trannes off C. Mexico and the ACs back in the Eastern USA.
–Jeff
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Uh, what are you saying you want to do?
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just so you know, my entire strategy was based on what you were doing. I will try to listen to reason, but i think this ship has sailed…?
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just so you know, my entire strategy was based on what you were doing. I will try to listen to reason, but i think this ship has sailed…?
what you were doing was the reason i had this one in the win column already. i find it hard to believe i could possibly lose this game from where the board currently sits.
however, before i proceed, i am certainly willing to listen to anything you may wish to say.
cheers
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I couldn’t lose the game from you earlier either but allowed you an edit.
I made a mistake on my USA move thinking the air in S. Africa could reach. I need to re-do my fleet move.
–Jeff
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You can then re-do Italy. I’ll keep the combat the same.
–Jeff
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hold on now Jeff. this is a very different situation. VERY different. me losing the italian air is not ever remotely comparable to this. it was an illegal move that neither one of us knew about and i think you were very reasonable and we handled it immediately. either way, it would not have resulted in me losing the game.
this on the other hand, is a crippling move (which i would need to have to stay in this game). in addition, you would have realized that your air could not get to z91 ON YOUR USA MOVE so you should have made the adjustment then.
now, i submit to you that you did not realized i could make the move i am about to make, and thus it would not be fair to ask to redo the american move at this point.
please tell me if i am missing something?
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Yes, you are missing that I am asking to re-do one american turn just like I gave you the chance to re-do your Italian turn earlier.
I didn’t probably adjust to my miscounting.
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I still don’t even know for sure how you would want to change the board, but i highly doubt it is going to be possible at this point. not only did you realize your air could not reach on the USA move, but Italy made a move which exposed what the Axis plans are. In addition, i made a post which caused you to look closely at the board, and most likely you have realized what my long term plans have been leading up to.
i am almost certain that due to these factors i am probably going to have to say no to a USA move re-do. there was nothing illegal about your move, and the most important factor is that you realized the air could not reach the carriers on your turn already.
however, as i said, i am always willing to listen and will wait to move until we have a firm resolution. i would certainly be open to an independent third party review on these events. but the facts above will almost certainly result in most if not all players on this forum saying a USA re-do is not a request that should be honored.
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I should never have allowed your edit now knowing how you are.
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I want the game reset at the earlier edit, I recind it completely and want the game played as the move laid earlier.
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Yes, you are missing that I am asking to re-do one american turn just like I gave you the chance to re-do your Italian turn earlier.
I didn’t probably adjust to my miscounting.
jeff, we came to a redo of the italian move earlier for this reason: the move was illegal and thus tainted. could you have insisted that the move stand? probably, but i think you decided that i would not have made the attack with only a 25% chance. we came to a mutual agreement that i would not use the air elsewhere on that turn and i appreciate your willingness to be reasonable and fair and that we resolved it promptly.
this situation, please understand, is the result of long term careful planning and is the entire culmination of what i have been working for in a game in which i have had at least 10 aircraft downed by ridiculous odds in just the last 2 turns. the reason most of those aircraft were downed, was to set up this very situation.
now, had there been something illegal about your move, we would have a whole different situation, but as it is jeff, i don’t think it would be fair and equitable for you to ask for a redo in this spot as though it would be an even trade for the italian redo.
cheers
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post the map you say you are wanting.
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