13L G40 Boldfresh vs. JWW (Allies +15)

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  • 6666
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    @Boldfresh:

    well, the allies are huge and earning a ton…  looks like they can afford some russian mistakes.

    we will see……

    so can you summarize the gist of the bombing rule? It seemed like only tac’s could be lost to a certain AA fire?? No?

    I need to give this a good review before I move. As anticipated this is going to be a “hard to win” game.

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  • boldfreshB
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    Bottom line is that the attacker can choose whatever casualties they want in the air battle (escorts/bombers/interceptors) but once that battle is over then the bombers are assigned to their targets.  Then aa fire is handles PER TARGET.  So once again the attacker can choose what is hit when aa hits but onlyPER TARGET.  Only strat bombers can be assigned to IC so there is no choice there.  The choice can only occur between tacs and strats when they are both involved in bombing the same AB or NB.  Make sense?

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  • boldfreshB
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    TripleA fires all aa after the air battle and fires it all together.  You can either use the dicey from aa.org to do seperate aa fire for each target or assign an order to the dice rolled on marti.  Ie first 3 dice are for the AB next 2 dice are for the NB and the last 4 dice are for the IC.

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  • 6666
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    seems complicated. you encountered this in a game?

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  • boldfreshB
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    @JWW:

    seems complicated. you encountered this in a game?

    Often.  Look at the game I sent you.  There were 2 tacs and 4 strats and 2 aa shots hit and fortress took both tacs as casualties.  All aa was rolled together even though the tacs cannot be sent to ICs.  Very important distinction.  Only strats can bomb ICs.

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  • 6666
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    the tacs were sent in as AA fodder or as potential casualties to scramble orders?

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  • boldfreshB
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    Not sure what his intent was exactly I was just commenting that the aa fire was not handled correctly by tripleA.  Those tacs would have to be assigned to either the AB and/or the NB.

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
                      Americans take Southern France from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 4 submarines moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
                      Americans take Southern France from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 4 submarines moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
                Battle in Sumatra
                Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                    Americans attack with 2 fighters
                    Germans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                        Americans roll dice for 2 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                        Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                        1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    Americans win, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
                Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                    ANZAC loiter and taunt with ; Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                        Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/6 hits
                        1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Americans win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Americans
                1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
                2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
                1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria

    Place Units - Americans
                3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
                1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States
                3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
                3 destroyers placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
                Americans collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs total
                Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
                Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs
                Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 90 PUs

    Territory Summary for Americans :

    Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Wake Island : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Western United States : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
        Hawaiian Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
        Midway : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Java : 1 flag
        Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        42 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        41 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 5 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
        43 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        37 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        26 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
        10 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 destroyers
        Central United States : 1 flag, 1 factory_major
        Eastern United States : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
        Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Morocco : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
        Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
        Algeria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
        Tunisia : 1 flag
        Holland Belgium : 1 flag
        95 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        93 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 submarines
        99 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
        101 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 transports
        Brazil : 1 flag
        91 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer and 3 transports
        110 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 3 transports

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 32 / 47
        Russians : 32 / 52
        Japanese : 58 / 62
        Americans : 70 / 90
        Chinese : 5 / 4
        British : 35 / 40
        UK_Pacific : 5 / 2
        Italians : 13 / 17
        ANZAC : 10 / 17
        French : 5 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                      Chinese take Anhwe from Japanese

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                      Chinese take Anhwe from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
                1 infantry placed in Anhwe

    Turn Complete - Chinese
                Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs total

    Territory Summary for Chinese :

    Jehol : 1 flag
        Manchuria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Anhwe : 1 flag, 2 infantry

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 32 / 47
        Russians : 32 / 52
        Japanese : 57 / 62
        Americans : 70 / 90
        Chinese : 6 / 7
        British : 35 / 40
        UK_Pacific : 5 / 2
        Italians : 13 / 17
        ANZAC : 10 / 17
        French : 5 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Combat Move - British
                1 infantry moved from India to Burma
                      UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese
                1 armour moved from Iraq to Caucasus
                      British take Northwest Persia from Italians
                1 bomber moved from Egypt to Caucasus
                1 fighter moved from Egypt to Caucasus

    Airborne Attack Move - British

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Combat Move - British
                1 infantry moved from India to Burma
                      UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese
                1 armour moved from Iraq to Caucasus
                      British take Northwest Persia from Italians
                1 bomber moved from Egypt to Caucasus
                1 fighter moved from Egypt to Caucasus

    Airborne Attack Move - British

    Combat - British
                Battle in Caucasus
                    British attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                    Italians defend with 2 infantry
                        British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Caucasus, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                        1 fighter owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
                    British win, taking Caucasus from Italians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                    Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                    Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
                1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
                1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
                1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
                2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
                1 submarine moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Persia to India
                1 bomber moved from Caucasus to West India
                1 fighter moved from Egypt to West India
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
                1 armour moved from Tunisia to Libya
                1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
                1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
                1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
                2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 aaGun moved from Eastern Persia to West India
                1 infantry moved from India to West India
                1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
                2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone
                2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
                1 destroyer placed in 81 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
                British collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs total
                Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

    Territory Summary for British :

    Burma : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        India : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        39 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
        West India : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
        Iceland : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Quebec : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
        Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
        New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 flag, 1 harbour
        Egypt : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 7 infantry
        Union of South Africa : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
        Scotland : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Malta : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
        United Kingdom : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
        Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 5 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        Syria : 1 flag
        Holland Belgium : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Tobruk : 1 flag
        Libya : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Ethiopia : 1 flag
        Caucasus : 1 flag, 1 armour
        96 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
        Iraq : 1 flag, 2 mech_infantrys
        92 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        Eastern Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        81 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
        79 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Persia : 1 flag
        98 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
        110 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 4 transports

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 32 / 47
        Russians : 34 / 52
        Japanese : 56 / 62
        Americans : 70 / 90
        Chinese : 6 / 7
        British : 35 / 41
        UK_Pacific : 6 / 2
        Italians : 11 / 17
        ANZAC : 10 / 17
        French : 5 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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  • boldfreshB
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    UK pacific?

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  • 6666
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    @Boldfresh:

    UK pacific?

    after dinner, sorry

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  • boldfreshB
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    @JWW:

    @Boldfresh:

    UK pacific?

    after dinner, sorry

    no rush I probably can’t post until after the first anyway. I was just checking to make sure you didn’t forget.

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  • 6666
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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

    Game History

    Round :6

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

    Territory Summary for UK_Pacific :

    India : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 32 / 47
        Russians : 34 / 52
        Japanese : 56 / 62
        Americans : 70 / 90
        Chinese : 6 / 7
        British : 35 / 41
        UK_Pacific : 6 / 8
        Italians : 11 / 17
        ANZAC : 10 / 17
        French : 5 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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  • 6666
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    there you go. lots of excitement

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  • 6666
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    allies ARE making huge $

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  • 6666
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    I learned a valuable lesson this game.

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