BotA - r3 - 270BC - Ajmdemen .vs. Pug6000

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 4 biremes, 4 cavalrys and 5 swordmen; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 warelephant moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            1 swordman moved from Carthago to SZ 36
            1 cavalry moved from Thapsus to Carthago
            1 swordman, 1 trireme and 1 warelephant moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 swordman and 1 warelephant moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 hoplite and 4 swordmen moved from Syracuse to Lilybaeum
            1 trireme moved from SZ 33 to SZ 32
            1 spearman moved from Carthago to SZ 32
            1 spearman moved from SZ 32 to Caralis
                  Carthage take Caralis from RomanRepublic
            5 biremes and 1 trireme moved from SZ 27 to SZ 33
            1 trireme moved from SZ 33 to SZ 32
            6 spearmen moved from Lilybaeum to Syracuse
            1 swordman moved from Valentia to SZ 17
            1 spearman moved from Palma to SZ 17
            4 cavalrys moved from Carthago Nova to Toletum
            2 spearmen moved from Tarraco to Toletum
            4 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 9 swordmen moved from Tarraco to Barcino
            2 biremes, 1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 17 to SZ 18
            1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 18 to Barcino

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Barcino
                Carthage attack with 4 cavalrys, 3 spearmen and 10 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 1 axeman, 1 cavalry and 3 swordmen
                Carthage win, taking Barcino from Neutral with 4 cavalrys, 1 spearman and 10 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 axeman, 1 cavalry and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Toletum
                Carthage attack with 4 cavalrys and 2 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 4 cavalrys
                Carthage win, taking Toletum from Neutral with 4 cavalrys and 2 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Neutral: 4 cavalrys

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            5 swordmen placed in Lilybaeum
            4 biremes placed in SZ 32
            4 cavalrys placed in Carthago Nova

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 75 PUs; end with 76 PUs total

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Barcino : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys, 1 spearman and 10 swordmen
    Thenae : 1 flag
    Salmantica : 1 flag
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Tarraco : 1 flag
    Castulo : 1 flag
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys and 1 city
    Toletum : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys and 2 spearmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 1 city and 1 swordman
    Syracuse : 1 flag, 15 spearmen and 1 warelephant
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 5 biremes and 3 triremes
    SZ 32 : 1 flag, 4 biremes and 2 triremes
    SZ 18 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 3 spearmen, 14 swordmen and 2 warelephants
    Valentia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 75 / 76
    RomanRepublic : 61 / 87
    GreekCityStates : 25 / 31
    Macedonia : 36 / 37
    Egypt : 38 / 47
    Seleucid : 47 / 58
    Parthia : 75 / 75
    Numidia : 25 / 26

@Ajmdemen:

I didn’t spot any serious mistakes (apart from the Athens rnd 1 mayhaps).

But in that case the map is seriously unbalanced. A difference of 10 to 20% of income and the only one major mistake was not to punish bad dicing luck and one small mistake leads to that conclusion for me.

Of course I can see a few mistakes on my side

• Sicilia could be taken one turn earlier (or least Greece could be denied to retake Syracuse one turn earlier) - not much difference.
• Seleucia has to force the fall of Salamis / Cyprus - nice difference.

I just try to understand this map.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - Macedonia
            Macedonia buy 1 bireme and 15 peltastss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Macedonia
            3 peltastss and 2 swordmen moved from Larissa to Delphi
            2 cavalrys moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 swordman moved from Larissa to Dodona
            6 peltastss moved from Thessalonica to Larissa

Combat - Macedonia
            Battle in Delphi
                Macedonia attack with 3 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                GreekCityStates defend with 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Macedonia win, taking Delphi from GreekCityStates with 2 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Casualties for Macedonia: 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - Macedonia

Place Units - Macedonia
            1 bireme placed in SZ 69
            6 peltastss placed in Larissa
            5 peltastss placed in Thessalonica
            4 peltastss placed in Odessus

Turn Complete - Macedonia
            Macedonia collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

Territory Summary for Macedonia :

Thessalonica : 1 flag, 1 city and 5 peltastss
    Larissa : 1 flag, 6 cavalrys, 1 city, 10 hoplites and 29 peltastss
    Pergamum : 1 flag
    Delphi : 1 flag, 2 swordmen
    SZ 69 : 1 flag, 6 biremes and 1 trireme
    Odessus : 1 flag, 1 city and 4 peltastss
    Dodona : 1 flag, 1 swordman

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 75 / 76
    RomanRepublic : 64 / 67
    GreekCityStates : 32 / 37
    Macedonia : 36 / 36
    Egypt : 38 / 47
    Seleucid : 40 / 58
    Parthia : 75 / 75
    Numidia : 25 / 26

@Ajmdemen:

I don’t really think it is unbalanced, as Carthage’s naval initiative counts for a lot.

So Carthage was my main mistake? I am still trying to find the strategy I have to change in the next game.

Rome can hold for a long time by building fortresses, while the East seems to fall quite soon. Salamis also looks quite critical to me. But even if I had taken it, I am not sure, that Seleucia could hold nearly as long as Rome.

I surrender the game