*BELLS RINGING* THE TIME HAS COME!

Awesome ! Glad your playing again.

Happy New Year !

I haven’t read it yet, but I have spoken with somebody who did. He stated that Sanderson’s style was not the same as Jordan’s, but he also stated that the book was very good.

lol

You can get the one form Sean Hannity’s site if you want the red and blue only map.  But you said you did not think the one that was just “red” whehter 501% or 99.9% was valid.

@cystic:

@Deviant:Scripter:

I believe the situation could have easily gone on for a matter of years, and we’d still have to use military force eventually. If not with Saddam, it would’ve been against one of his psychotic kids.

I believe, in the wake of 9/11, most people would be MUCH MORE hesitant about giving a guy like that more time to disarm, especially given the 12 years he’s already had. The circumstances and potential consequences are just too great to sit by and watch…HOPING one day he’ll have a dramatic change of mind.

Does anybody deny that the only reason Saddam even “agreed” to inspections was because the US military was parked on his border?

i will agree with that. I’ll also agree that it was costing the US a fortune to park the machine there. Furthermore, i’ll agree that many other nations, particularly Canada and European nations (including Russia) helped speed this conflict along by being sideline wimps. I think that if more pressure had come from the international community much earlier, this war may have been avoided - if only because Bush would have lost his excuses to invade (although the regime change card would likely have still been played). Still, although i have little other than my gut to go on here, i believe that this is not a reason for a bunch of people carrying guns to march into someone else’s country in order to kill a bunch of other people . . . .

All true. I just don’t see how war could’ve been avoided in the end, without letting Saddam Hussein pretty much have his way for an indefinite amount of time.

JMO–a lot of great observations here from the other side as well.

Ozone27

@No?isdum:

Could someone explain how a universe that wants to go from order to disorder(2nd Law of Thermo?) can have evolution (theory) as a key element (no pun intended.) Or is mixing law from one science with theory from another science impermissible?

We had that in other threads.
The point is semi-understanding of thermodynamics.

2nd law of thermocdynamics: more correctly:
In a closed system processes that reduce entropy are not happening.

The earth as a system is not closed: we get energy from the sun!

just short, but that covers the point

I’m not sure you know what I mean

ok, thanks