2013 G40 League Post Game Results Here - Thread

@Most:

Unknown Soldier (Axis) defeats Most Holy (Axis +12)

Here is the link

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29457.msg1052700#msg1052700

Infrastructure (Axis) over Jeff28 (Allies +8)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29562.0

Ziggurat (Axis) over JWW (Allies +10)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29503.135

@Boldfresh:

hey egg, allies +6 isn’t your cup o tea it would appear…  :|

It’s not the bid, it’s the game.  I made a post a while ago saying it seemed like the game was weighted for the Allies.  That was after playing the game with local friends who also knew nothing at all about it.  Now that I see how things usually go, I’m on the side of feeling the game is un-winnable as the Allies unless the Axis side has the weaker player(s).

Sure I could keep trying with higher and higher bids, but I don’t find it that satisfying to win when your opponent has a huge handicap.

@Eggman:

@Boldfresh:

hey egg, allies +6 isn’t your cup o tea it would appear…  :|

It’s not the bid, it’s the game.  I made a post a while ago saying it seemed like the game was weighted for the Allies.  That was after playing the game with local friends who also knew nothing at all about it.  Now that I see how things usually go, I’m on the side of feeling the game is un-winnable as the Allies unless the Axis side has the weaker player(s).

Sure I could keep trying with higher and higher bids, but I don’t find it that satisfying to win when your opponent has a huge handicap.

but are you not stating that the allies are handicapped?  so that is the point of a bid, to even the playing field.

@Eggman:

Sure I could keep trying with higher and higher bids, but I don’t find it that satisfying to win when your opponent has a huge handicap.

Yeah, dude, the point of bidding is to make the game 50/50.  Even if it’s a high amount, it’s not a “handicap”.  You or your opponent just agreed to what you think is fair…  You and your opponent are just essentially saying that the maker of the game failed to make it a 50/50 game with the starting setup, and your modification (bid) makes it closer to 50/50…

So like Bold said - giving the Allies extra units is REMOVING the handicap, not creating a new one…  :wink:

Interestingly, the latest tweak (2nd edition) REMOVED a UK infantry from Egypt!  Larry must not think the Allies are disadvantaged!

@Boldfresh:

…but are you not stating that the allies are handicapped?  so that is the point of a bid, to even the playing field.

@Gamerman01:

So like Bold said - giving the Allies extra units is REMOVING the handicap, not creating a new one…  :wink:

Yes, I get the idea.  But even with thinking that I am removing an advantage of my opponent, they are still being punished in a way which diminishes the value of victory (for me).  I think handicapping works better in games like golf that are not zero-sum.

Call me Don Quixote, if you like.  La  Mancha is nice this time of year…

Regarding the 2e changes, yes, the Egypt INF was clearly unimportant as nobody bids an extra INF to replace it.  I would have instead tweaked the Italian NOs, as they are too closely dependent.  An Italy good enough to get one of them is probably going to get all of them (especially if the Axis started by clearing out the Allied warships), and once it does, it is pretty much equaling the UK in income.  That’s a topic for a different thread though.

Jeff (Allies +10) over Odonis (Axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29534.0

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@Eggman:

Call me Don Quixote, if you like.  La  Mancha is nice this time of year…

Yes, I will call you Don Quixote

Regarding the 2e changes, yes, the Egypt INF was clearly unimportant as nobody bids an extra INF to replace it.

I guess I’m nobody, because I just did.  I think I saw somebody else that did, and I don’t look at many of other people’s games.

As you said, if Italy gets one NO they tend to get more.  Isn’t the UK infantry in Egypt quite key, then?  It is difficult for UK to get reinforcements to this vital area.

But yeah, we’re cluttering up the game results thread…  :oops:

@Gamerman01:

Regarding the 2e changes, yes, the Egypt INF was clearly unimportant as nobody bids an extra INF to replace it.

I guess I’m nobody, because I just did.  I think I saw somebody else that did, and I don’t look at many of other people’s games.

Plenty of stuff to possibly discuss there, but I’ll just ask 1 follow-up: I was really meaning to say that nobody bids Allies +3 just to give themselves a UK Egypt INF.  You might have put one there, but was that the entire bid, or was that just the leftovers after you placed the unit(s) that was actually really important?  Obviously any extra units are helpful to some degree, but that one guy by himself isn’t turning the tide in the Med.

Yeah, mine was a +9 and I did arty to Sze, inf to Egypt, +2 to UK

We should play some time  :-)

Eggman win against MiamiUMike in my last game on the boards for a LONG time…

Take care all!

Peace!

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29688.0

Ziggurat (Axis) beats Eggman (Allies +3) after the Allies get too cocky and leave Cairo open, not thinking that Germany would be ready to sacrifice the Air Force to help take it.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29680.0

JWW (Axis) defeats Most Holy (Allies +7)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29448.0

Gamerman01 (Axis) beats Eggman (Allies +3).  Nothing worthy to see here.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29765.0

Zhukov44 (Axis) beats Eggman (Allies +9).

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29751.0

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29769.120

Cow (Axis) beats Jeff28 (Allies +15). Jeff surrendered, but I still feel it to be a razor close game, hinging on Japan’s next turn.

Oh crap, I am not supposed to report.

Scratch that. I want to see if I can convince him not to surrender then.

Wheatbeer beat vance (allies +7) again.