2013 - AAG 40 League

gamerman01

The same stats are in Triple A also a click away.
One major fault with Triple A, though, is that the income does not reflect NO’s :-(

Jenn, if you are clicking multiple times to get multiple units, it just means you don’t know about all the functions of Triple A.
You can control click to move a stack. Shift click to move everything in a territory. If you shift click a sea zone and move to a land territory, it will only move the ground units, so that is handy.
If you don’t want a whole stack, no problem. You click ELSEWHERE in the territory and it brings up a dialog box to select (you can type the number) the exact number of units you want to select. Voila.

I mainly meant that Triple A enforces a lot of rules, like movement limits on airplanes, that Battlemap does not.
In Battlemap you have to check everything - including the opponent’s math. You can’t buy 12 infantry with 35 IPC’s in TripleA but in Battlemap you can. So there is a lot of error checking in Triple A.

If you want to play with Battlemap, you’re going to have to play Karl, or play with yourself. I don’t know anyone else who would be willing to.

Major Major

I played battlemap a ton back during revised and even played global with it when triple a was too glitchy and rules were changing daily, but in a game this size playing by battlemap is just too slow. Â I’d rather have two boards set up and play by skype now. Â TripleA is just too much smoother for online play than to do battlemap.

gamerman01

Krieghund just confirmed…

I was correct about #3 on the list…

So now we have to do rocket attacks manually if we have more than 1
And Triple A does rocket attacks in the combat movement phase instead of the combat phase :roll:
Also, Triple A doesn’t allow multiple attacks against one facility, which is legal.

So basically what I’m saying is to do rockets correctly according to the rules, you’re usually going to need to roll them on the forum and edit. Like with mixed SBR’s and AAs

Major Major

Thanks g-man. That list is very helpful. With the number of people playing now, maybe we can get the awesome guys doing the coding to take a look! They’re so smart and easily flattered that I’m sure they will do it now!

gamerman01

Go ahead - I’ve already tried before
You have permission to use that list. It would be fabulous if they fixed most or all of those things on that list.

Jennifer

Also if they could give me the things I liked about battlemap back, like having the charts surgically implanted on the map so I can see them without having to do weird menu trees, oh and be able to shift click or control click or shift+control click to get certain stacks of units off that would be great too….you know what, why don’t I just go back to battlemap? I don’t like the features of TripleA except the map coloring and the not typing my dice on the server and I am okay with not having either of those…

:P

Sorry, but I’m hungry, tired and been on hold on the phone for over 38 minutes now so I also have no patience!

Major Major

Jenn, give tripleA a chance, once you learn its idiosyncrisies, I swear it is 11 times better.

Jennifer

@Infrastructure:

Jenn,Â give tripleA a chance, once you learn its idiosyncrisies, I swear it is 11 times better.

I’ve been giving them a chance since 1.2. They’ve had chances, I even gave mapview a chance, but honestly, I always come back to battlemap because it’s quick, light, doesn’t require any processing power, it runs on every platform imaginable, it never crashes and it’s got everything I need in one convenient place. Heck, you can even edit the map and put your own charts on, it’s just a bmp file!

The only thing battlemap cant do that tripleA can, when it comes to playing human vs human, is roll the dice. But Djensen gave us a dice server specifically to handle that one minor detail!

Hell, I usually force my game group at home to use battlemap since it saves the hassle of setting up and putting away the board! lol. (Although Jim and David are both itching to freaking use the pretty TripleA since it also means we don’t have to take out my dice. Not that I don’t own 48d6 dice of various colors so you can call a color for different units and roll them all at once…or deal with those massive infantry stacks!)

boldfresh

jen, you can play 5 games a year on battlemap if you can find someone to play with you - or play yourself. if you want any significant play, i’m going to step out on a limb and say you better get used to tripleA.

Jennifer

@Boldfresh:

jen, you can play 5 games a year on battlemap if you can find someone to play with you - or play yourself.Â if you want any significant play, i’m going to step out on a limb and say you better get used to tripleA.

Not a very dangerous limb. I know, the prettiness finally beat out the functionality. However, I don’t have to like it!

gamerman01

Added 6b to the list :-(

Noticed in a game today that when Triple A (properly) has aircraft fire separately in a fleet battle involving subs because they cannot hit subs, it unfortunately (improperly) requires a casualty choice prematurely.

Yet another reason to roll (fleet battles involving submarines) outside of Triple A :-(

Assuming Infrastructure didn’t, I will now send this list to Veqryn…

Triple A problems.doc

Karl7

Question:

Is DS Kelly’s calc reliable? Or is the one built into tripple a better?

Just lost huge battle that DS Kelly said was 98%.

Karl7

Never mind. Issue was resolved. The calcs are similar in their results if you actually apply the SAME number of units… :lol:

Jennifer

@Karl7:

Question:

Is DS Kelly’s calc reliable?Â Â Or is the one built into tripple a better?

Just lost huge battle that DS Kelly said was 98%.

Don’t be DISSIN my DS Kelly! I’ve relied on that for AGES and still do. I don’t trust TripleA, it’s too PRETTY!

Jennifer

As for issues in regards to league:

You can alter your CMs to your heart’s content UNTIL you ask for scrambles or OOLs. Once the defender has committed (and before dice are rolled) you are committed.
If you start rolling dice and forget a CM or want to change a CM you are SOL. The die is cast (pun intended) and you are committed.
Now you can finish your combats and do your NCM.
Your NCM is committed when you post your build order. Until then, you can still alter it.
Your build order is committed when you post your income.

Note: Illegal moves can only be changed up until the start of the next turn. Once you start throwing dice, the mistakes of your opponent are committed, you have in essence - agreed to accept the illegal move. This is only to prevent issues like saying “wait, how did you get your transport there, you moved 3 spaces without a naval base 7 rounds ago! We have to fix it…” etc. I feel this is an issue that does more damage than just allowing the mistake. We’re going to assume mistakes are MISTAKES not efforts to cheat. Of course, if a pattern of this behavior becomes evident, then you should report it to myself or DarthMaximus (g’luck, he’s on vacation! I’ve yet to hear of him returning, so…it’s me or nothing for now!)

If YOU, as the contestants in the game in question, decide to allow a correction, then YOU are stuck with it. I admit that I will almost always allow an opponent to fix something like forgetting to annex a friendly neutral or walk into an undefended territory if they forget. Failing to realize I had another airbase and can scramble 6 fighters and the odds are HORRIBLY against you now, I probably won’t (unless you agree to give me a mulligan. lol.) Of course, as the attacker you have the option to retreat after the first round, so you’ve got quite a bit of advantage anyway. Mistakes, after all, can be attributed to the “fog of war” no?

seth4god

@Gamerman01:

Here’s the list and I probably left something out, believe it or not.
I have raised all of these issues with Veqryn in the past 5 months. He says all of them are considered and/or on his to do list, but no promises on how soon he’ll get to some of them, and we do not agree about the level of importance of some of these issues.

Triplea will convoy China’s money.

gamerman01

Added it as soon as I saw it in the FAQ!
Already went back and saw that I lost 11 IPC’s as China in a game recently completed. Allweneedislove apparently was unaware of this rule as well.

Updated list attached. Panther said he reported it.

Triple A problems.doc

boldfresh

i just noticed something in our game seth - the harbor in calcutta is bombed to 6 damage. in the UK London purchase phase, it asks if i want to repair the harbor out of UK London’s money. Is London allowed to repair facilities owned by UK pacific?

seth4god

I’m pretty sure that they’re supposed to be completely separate economies and I don’t think you can do so. I think the problem lies in the triplea programming where it reverts every piece put down by UK Pac as just UK so that you can move all the Brits at once. I could be wrong though, but I’m like 95% sure that you can’t use the UK Euro cash to repair the India stuff.

Jennifer

@Gamerman01:

Added it as soon as I saw it in the FAQ!
Already went back and saw that I lost 11 IPC’s as China in a game recently completed.Â Allweneedislove apparently was unaware of this rule as well.

Updated list attached.Â Panther said he reported it.

Again, none of these problems exist if you use Battlemap! :P

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