Environment against Navy …

yea, but its fun to say

Look, the problem here is that nobody wants to give in to the environmentalists. Now, if the Navy came out and said, “Look, we don’t need to patrol 100% of the oceans, we’ll limit ourselves to 60% because we don’t need to.” Then that would be one thing, but to have environmentalists tell them that they need to stop is rediculous. If you give the treehuggers the 60% they want, they’ll ask for 50%, then 40%. They’ll keep taking until we can’t touch the environment at all.

IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.

@Janus1:

IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.

Are we talking about anybody who enjoys the outdoors, or the radical Greenpeace/PETA types?

@Grigoriy:

@Janus1:

IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.

Are we talking about anybody who enjoys the outdoors, or the radical Greenpeace/PETA types?

Greenpeace tyes I think :wink: ….

Yeah, shoot 'em. :wink:

Hahaha, wheat is murder… :lol:

In that case, maybe I am…

(Never said I wasn’t)

falk, you can call me any kind of radical you like (as long as its true, i wont stand for lies). but at least im not some enviromentalist radical a**hole who thinks its wrong for humans to live on earth because it “disturbs nature”. i mean, for a prime example, greenpeace people protest oil drilling, by going out to oil rigs in diesel-powered boats……
Hello?

Ive seen SUV protesters getting honks from people driving SUVs, and waving back, all happy. I mean, come on. I have absolutely no respect for them. If you are into helping the enviroment, you know, doing your part and all, thats fine. i myself recycle, i try to not be wasteful, you know? im not all eco-happy, but im not some polluting redneck either. and all those greenpeace and peta types (especially the vegans and vegetarians (for reasons being it means killing an animal) should be shot. period.

Ive seen SUV protesters getting honks from people driving SUVs, and waving back, all happy. I mean, come on. I have absolutely no respect for them. If you are into helping the enviroment, you know, doing your part and all, thats fine. i myself recycle, i try to not be wasteful, you know? im not all eco-happy, but im not some polluting redneck either. and all those greenpeace and peta types (especially the vegans and vegetarians (for reasons being it means killing an animal) should be shot. period.

It funny. Just less than a few weeks ago, a group of “environmentalists” (or eco-nazis as I call them) firebombed 20 new Hummers at a Car Dealership. Funny, I thought the fumes from a exploding car were actually harmful to the environment… :roll:

@F_alk:

@Janus1:

I mean, for a prime example, greenpeace people protest oil drilling, by going out to oil rigs in diesel-powered boats……
Hello?

You accept the same logic when it comes to wars though. Fighting a small war to prevent a big one. Having a few violations of human rights to prevent the large ones… why don’t you accept this (doing a little pollution to prevent the big one) for others?

Yeah, But it seems to me not to be based on a arguement worth being encroached on for… personally I can see why not to cut down the Amazon forest, because it supplies the midwest farms that supply our food with a majority of the rain they get… that would put our nation into a state of serious down heaval… but oil drilling???

@F_alk:

You accept the same logic when it comes to wars though. Fighting a small war to prevent a big one. Having a few violations of human rights to prevent the large ones… why don’t you accept this (doing a little pollution to prevent the big one) for others?

It has nothing to with us (at least in my case), it has to do with them. They’re so caught up in their “moral crusade” that they don’t recognize the hypocrisy inherent in their situation. If you confront them about it, they just shrug it off and say that it doesn’t matter. The thing is, it’s not like they’re getting that many people to change. If everyone stopped driving high-polluting cars, then it might make sense, but it’s not going to happen.

@Guerrilla:

@F_alk:

@Janus1:

I mean, for a prime example, greenpeace people protest oil drilling, by going out to oil rigs in diesel-powered boats……
Hello?

You accept the same logic when it comes to wars though. Fighting a small war to prevent a big one. Having a few violations of human rights to prevent the large ones… why don’t you accept this (doing a little pollution to prevent the big one) for others?

Yeah, But it seems to me not to be based on a arguement worth being encroached on for… personally I can see why not to cut down the Amazon forest, because it supplies the midwest farms that supply our food with a majority of the rain they get… that would put our nation into a state of serious down heaval… but oil drilling???

oh yeah I forgot to say that the Amazon produces rain by itself……

the difference, falk, is im not against war. im pro-war. in most circumstances. thats why i support a small war to prevent a big war, since i support the small war to begin with. the eco-nazis are against pollution, period (at least the ones im talking about), and they pollute while protesting it. its this hypocrisy that makes me not respect them. i lack this hypocrisy.

@F_alk:

Environmentalists usually are against pollution, but you can be sure they are not against each and every pollution, they sure don’t mind to use energu. They mind to waste energy though, and SUVs (for example) are wasting.

The first sentence of this, I could agree with. However, how is it not wasting energy if they use diesel speedboats to protest offshore oil drilling, and the drilling continues? If they pollute in order to do something that has no effect, I see no reason for them to do it in the first place.

@Grigoriy:

@F_alk:

Environmentalists usually are against pollution, but you can be sure they are not against each and every pollution, they sure don’t mind to use energu. They mind to waste energy though, and SUVs (for example) are wasting.

The first sentence of this, I could agree with. However, how is it not wasting energy if they use diesel speedboats to protest offshore oil drilling, and the drilling continues? If they pollute in order to do something that has no effect, I see no reason for them to do it in the first place.

this is one of those small things with a hoped for long-term benefit. True environmentalists are doing nearly nothing in terms of ceasing oil-drilling ops, and they might even be painting themselves as nuisences by the “normals”. Still It is hoped that at the very least this raises the collective consciousness of humans for environmental concerns.

It’s funny. I look at the accumulated national debt of Canada with anger by the people who imposed this on us. Stupid Brian Mulrooney and his $30 billion + deficits. Nice - a group of politicians about to retire leave a legacy of nation-crippling debt that today’s politicians have to dig us out of. This involves crippling taxes causing many of our best and brightest to flee to the states. It also involves the killing of programs that could greatly benefit our country.
I think the environmentalists see the environment as I see Canada. Something amazing and beautiful, but something that a bunch of old greedy white men don’t have a problem treading over in order to further their own legacy/portfolios. Of course the environmental problems are not theirs as they will long be dead after the results of their hubris are realized. My children, however, will not be so fortunate.