Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)

Can China move forces into Burma when not an ally? Japan didn’t DOW against anyone but France on J1. On China’s turn, China flew their fighter into Burma. Is this legal and if so, does it give Japan provocation to DOW on UK?

I know the allies can’t move units into China without causing provocation. But I didn’t see anything about China moving units into UK provoking a war and I didn’t see any conditions attached to China moving forces into Burma/Kwangtung.

Sort of a followup question that I just considered as I was reading what could provoke Japan.

At the beginning of the game, Japan is at war only with China. Japan considers movement of units into China by any other Allied power as an act of war against it.

Say hypothetically, G1 passes without a DOW. On R1, Russia sends mech and/or air into China. No DOW on J1. Germany DOWs against Russia on G2 making Russia an allied power. Does this mean that the Russian units already in China give Japan reason to DOW? Or do they have a turn to get out of China? What if they don’t move? As the wording says movement and not anything about sitting in place.

Yes, China can move forces into Burma/Hong Kong before UK is at war with Japan.
You are right, it is UK/ANZ that cannot move over or into China at all without a DOW on Japan, but China can move into Burma/Hong Kong before Japan and UK are at war with each other.
China IS an ally with UK at game start because UK is at war with G/I and China is at war with J, and J and G/I are allies.

No, this movement to Hong Kong or Burma by China is not a provocation for Japan.  ONLY UK/ANZ can “provoke” Japan, and this ALWAYS comes in the form of a DOW by UK/ANZ on Japan.

Russia has to be at war with Japan before Russia can move anything into China.  I think that’s what you’re missing.
So Russia is an allied power as of R1, although only on the Pacific map.

Japan can DOW Russia any time and Russia can DOW Japan any time.  No action by Russia can ever be considered provocation that allows J to declare war on UK/ANZ without bringing USA in.  Provocation only comes from UK/ANZ, and would always come in the form of a DOW by UK/ANZ on Japan.  A DOW is required by UK/ANZ to fly over anything Chinese or move anything into China.

@Gamerman01:

@Boldfresh:

So u must drop at least one unit from each zone from which ships are bombarding.  And drop at least one unit per bombarding ship in aggregate regardless from which zone.

Exactly

Can a fleet from one seazone split to bombard 2 assaults simultaneously?

Example: Battleship and Cruiser in SZ110, 2 Units to drop into Belgium, 2 into Normandy. Can 1 ship bombard Belgium and the other Normandy?

@JapanDOWRound1Fan:

@Gamerman01:

@Boldfresh:

So u must drop at least one unit from each zone from which ships are bombarding.  And drop at least one unit per bombarding ship in aggregate regardless from which zone.

Exactly

Can a fleet from one seazone split to bombard 2 assaults simultaneously?

Example: Battleship and Cruiser in SZ110, 2 Units to drop into Belgium, 2 into Normandy. Can 1 ship bombard Belgium and the other Normandy?

Yes

Thanks for clarifying the China question. I was pretty sure it was legal when my opponent did it, but I wasn’t 100%.

As for the part two, ignore that ever came up. This is what happens when I’m sleep deprived, I thought I was a genius and was wondering why no one else did this whenever Russia sent units into China. I don’t think I made any blunders while in that state and I’m glad I went to bed right after posting that question.  :-P

@JapanDOWRound1Fan:

@Gamerman01:

@Boldfresh:

So u must drop at least one unit from each zone from which ships are bombarding.  And drop at least one unit per bombarding ship in aggregate regardless from which zone.

Exactly

Can a fleet from one seazone split to bombard 2 assaults simultaneously?

Example: Battleship and Cruiser in SZ110, 2 Units to drop into Belgium, 2 into Normandy. Can 1 ship bombard Belgium and the other Normandy?

Yes.  Of course, the 2 units from 1 transport must stay together and drop on the same territory.  You couldn’t drop 2 infantry on one and 2 tanks on the other.  And yes you can split up the bombardment however you like, subject to the “no more bombardment than # of units dropped” rule

@seththenewb:

Thanks for clarifying the China question. I was pretty sure it was legal when my opponent did it, but I wasn’t 100%.

My pleasure.  It actually helped me become more clear and confident on the issues as well, as I had to re-read the Pac 2nd edition rulebook political situation portion to be 100% sure.

Can Japan build a major in Kiangsu or Manchuria?

Afternoon ghr2.
Afraid not. It is considered Chinese originally owned territory, only occupied by Japan.

People at gencon were saying that in global 40 2nd edition, that Japan was allowed to do that.

I remember Krieg saying they could not, as I always thought they could.
Wait on Him or Gamerman then.
Hope you had fun incidentally.

No, Japan definitely cannot build a major in Manchuria or Kiangsu because they are considered originally Chinese territories.  I know Krieghund has said the same.

It must be an originally Japanese territory, as in, yellow on the game board.

Korea is the only eligible site for a Japanese major in 2nd edition.

I’m not quite sure how to find this in a 67 page FAQ, so maybe it has been asked before. But for the purpose of retreat, does a transport constitute an ‘attacking unit’? So if I enter some fighting naval units into combat from one sea zone, and add a transport to it arriving from a different sea zone, could I then, after a round of combat, retreat all units towards where the transport came from?

@Herr:

I’m not quite sure how to find this in a 67 page FAQ, so maybe it has been asked before. But for the purpose of retreat, does a transport constitute an ‘attacking unit’? So if I enter some fighting naval units into combat from one sea zone, and add a transport to it arriving from a different sea zone, could I then, after a round of combat, retreat all units towards where the transport came from?

Yes, you can.
You must only have at least 1 unit with attack value (so something besides a transport or a carrier) come from SOMEwhere.  You CAN establish new retreat routes with transports.

Excellent question - I asked this same question of Krieghund several months ago  :wink:
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Is this the correct order of operation for the combat section of the turn:
1. make all combat moves
2. declare scrambles
3. start rolling battles

so you cant change the forces in a combat after a declared scramble because you realized you are sol?

@Gamerman01:

Sequence of events:
Combat move phase: Player moves bombers and escorts to target territories
End of combat move phase: Defender makes scrambling decisions
After combat move phase and before conduct combat phase: Defender must make intercept decisions
Beginning of conduct combat phase: Defender makes kamikaze decisions
Conduct combat phase: Player has option to roll all SBR’s and then all rockets, or all rockets and then all SBRs.  All rocket targets must be selected before rolling any rocket dice.  Specific facility targets for SBRs are not chosen until AFTER ANY AIR BATTLES with interceptors are complete.

So yes, majik, Scramble decisions are made after all combat movement is complete.  After the scramble decision(s), no combat moves may be changed.

Ok here is a good one for you guys:

Can i attack a fleet with a sub to demonstrate that I have a “chance” of giving my planes a valid landing spot, only to submerge the sub saving it to fight another day in combat.

@ErwinRommel:

Ok here is a good one for you guys:

Can i attack a fleet with a sub to demonstrate that I have a “chance” of giving my planes a valid landing spot, only to submerge the sub saving it to fight another day in combat.

Yes, I’m pretty sure I remember Krieghund saying you could actually submerge it (to make the flight plan legal).

The only part I can’t remember for sure is if you have to go a round with the sub or if you can submerge it immediately.

You have to fight one round.