Sweden seems the type of country that has the sole purpose of tying up enemy resources to help it’s allies instead of being offensive for it’s own sake.
Most think so, but they are wrong. I think I won 50% of my games because they underestimated Swedens power. But it depends on the overall strategy.
Some coalitions go against Sweden first. In that case Sweden has no chance at all. But if France is stronger inside Germany, Sweden can slowly build a large army and become an important power. Think of your Swedish stack in Jutland, just larger and with some pressure on Prussia from France.
sweden actually starts with a very high TUV, higher than a lot of other powers
the only problem is that russia can kill about a quarter of it without much trouble (though it does mean russia has to commit almost all it has to the job), and the rest is stuck in jutland
as long as uk doesn’t gun for it, sweden can become quite big, and often result in the fall of prussia
The problem was that I started out assuming that Finland could be held without running any sims to check my assumption for accuracy and I built an encampment on the first turn. If I had opened with an all naval purchase I could have controlled the Baltic earlier and I might have been able to rescue some of the more expensive units from destruction.
I recovered somewhat, but it put Sweden in a hole early.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7
Game History
Round :19
Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
1 Frigate moved from SZ57 to SZ60
1 Cutter moved from SZ60 to SZ57
1 Cutter moved from SZ60 to SZ58
2 Cutters and 2 Frigates moved from SZ69 to SZ60
1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 2 Mariness moved from Highland to Scotland
1 Corvette moved from SZ17 to SZ19
UnitedKingdom take SZ19 from Sweden
1 Cutter moved from SZ17 to SZ22
Purchase Units - UnitedKingdom
UnitedKingdom buy 2 Battleships, 2 Fortresss and 2 Mortella_Towers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat - UnitedKingdom
Non Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
Place Units - UnitedKingdom
2 Mortella_Towers placed in Rome
2 Fortresss placed in Majorca
2 Battleships placed in SZ63
Turn Complete - UnitedKingdom
UnitedKingdom collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total
Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: UnitedKingdom met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 44 PUs
Territory Summary for UnitedKingdom :
SZ61 : 1 flag
Scotland : 1 flag, 1 Fortress, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 2 Mariness
Corsica : 1 flag, 1 Encampment
SZ63 : 1 flag, 2 Battleships
Majorca : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 2 Fortresss and 3 Mariness
SZ17 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 3 Battleships, 8 Brigantines, 12 Cutters and 1 Frigate
Sicily : 1 flag
Essex : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 4 Fusilierss and 5 Mortella_Towers
Rome : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 4 Mortella_Towers
Connaught : 1 flag
South Wales : 1 flag, 1 Mortella_Tower
SZ19 : 1 flag, 1 Corvette
SZ60 : 1 flag, 5 Battleships, 7 Brigantines, 9 Cutters and 5 Frigates
SZ57 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
SZ58 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
Oxfordshire : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss
SZ22 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
Eturia : 1 flag
Production/PUs Summary :
France : 57 / 51
UnitedKingdom : 48 / 44
Spain : 44 / 37
KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 31
Sweden : 19 / 25
AustrianEmpire : 39 / 42
OttomanEmpire : 33 / 41
Russia : 53 / 53
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7
Game History
Round :19
Combat Move - Spain
1 Fusiliers moved from Estremadura to Algarve
Spain take Algarve from KingdomOfPrussia
Purchase Units - Spain
Spain buy 2 Corvettes, 1 Frigate and 1 Fusiliers; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Combat - Spain
Non Combat Move - Spain
1 Barque, 2 Battleships, 5 Brigantines, 5 Corvettes, 13 Cutters and 5 Frigates moved from SZ56 to SZ54
1 General moved from Valencia to SZ56
1 Barque and 1 General moved from SZ56 to SZ54
1 General moved from SZ54 to Tangiers
1 General moved from Tangiers to West Sahara
1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars moved from El Erg to Atlas
1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss and 3 Mariness moved from Valencia to New Castille
1 Cuirassiers and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Leon to New Castille
2 Dragoonss moved from Catalonia to New Castille
Place Units - Spain
1 Fusiliers placed in New Castille
1 Frigate placed in SZ53
1 Corvette placed in SZ54
Spain undo move 2.
1 Frigate placed in SZ54
1 Corvette placed in SZ51
Turn Complete - Spain
Spain collect 45 PUs; end with 48 PUs total
Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: Spain met a national objective for an additional -10 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Territory Summary for Spain :
Sardinia : 1 flag, 2 Fortresss and 3 Mortella_Towers
El Erg : 1 flag
Tangiers : 1 flag, 1 General
Algarve : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
Oran : 1 flag
Oporto : 1 flag
SZ51 : 1 flag, 1 Corvette
Atlas : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars
SZ54 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 2 Battleships, 5 Brigantines, 7 Corvettes, 14 Cutters and 6 Frigates
West Sahara : 1 flag, 1 General
Algeria : 1 flag
Areg : 1 flag
New Castille : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 3 Mariness and 20 Mortella_Towers
Production/PUs Summary :
France : 57 / 51
UnitedKingdom : 48 / 44
Spain : 45 / 38
KingdomOfPrussia : 27 / 31
Sweden : 19 / 25
AustrianEmpire : 39 / 42
OttomanEmpire : 33 / 41
Russia : 53 / 53
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7
Game History
Round :19
Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
1 Cutter moved from SZ7 to SZ9
1 Brigantine and 1 Frigate moved from SZ6 to SZ9
1 Horse_Artillery moved from Andalusia to Murcia
KingdomOfPrussia take Murcia from Spain
1 Dragoons and 4 Horse_Artillerys moved from Andalusia to La Mancha
KingdomOfPrussia take La Mancha from Spain
1 Cuirassiers moved from Hesse to Hanovre
1 Cuirassiers moved from Magdeburg to Hanovre
1 Fusiliers moved from Pomerania to Mecklenburg
2 Horse_Artillerys moved from Prussia to Mecklenburg
3 Chasseurss and 1 Fusiliers moved from Brandenburg to Mecklenburg
1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars moved from Brandenburg to Hanovre
2 Fusilierss moved from Magdeburg to Hesse
1 Dragoons moved from Magdeburg to Hanovre
12 Dragoonss moved from Hesse to Hanovre
1 Fusiliers moved from Hesse to Rhine
2 Chasseurss and 17 Fusilierss moved from Hesse to Cologne
Purchase Units - KingdomOfPrussia
KingdomOfPrussia buy 1 Barque, 3 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Hussarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat - KingdomOfPrussia
Battle in Mecklenburg
KingdomOfPrussia attack with 3 Chasseurss, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Horse_Artillerys
Sweden defend with 2 Fusilierss
KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 3 Chasseurss, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Horse_Artillerys in Mecklenburg, round 1 : 2/1 hits
Sweden roll dice for 2 Fusilierss in Mecklenburg, round 1 : 0/1 hits
2 Fusilierss owned by the Sweden lost in Mecklenburg
KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Mecklenburg from Sweden with 3 Chasseurss, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Horse_Artillerys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Sweden: 2 Fusilierss
Battle in Cologne
KingdomOfPrussia attack with 2 Chasseurss and 17 Fusilierss
France defend with 1 Hussars
KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 2 Chasseurss and 17 Fusilierss in Cologne, round 1 : 3/1 hits
France roll dice for 1 Hussars in Cologne, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 Hussars owned by the France lost in Cologne
KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Cologne from France with 2 Chasseurss and 17 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for France: 1 Hussars
Battle in Hanovre
KingdomOfPrussia attack with 2 Cuirassierss, 13 Dragoonss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
France defend with 3 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer
KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 2 Cuirassierss, 13 Dragoonss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars in Hanovre, round 1 : 6/1 hits
France roll dice for 3 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer in Hanovre, round 1 : 1/1 hits
1 Howitzer owned by the France , 1 Hussars owned by the KingdomOfPrussia and 3 Fusilierss owned by the France lost in Hanovre
KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Hanovre from France with 2 Cuirassierss, 13 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
Casualties for France: 3 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer
Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Hussars
Non Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
1 General moved from Brandenburg to Pomerania
Place Units - KingdomOfPrussia
1 Barque placed in SZ9
2 Horse_Artillerys placed in Pomerania
1 Horse_Artillery and 2 Hussarss placed in Prussia
Turn Complete - KingdomOfPrussia
KingdomOfPrussia collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
Territory Summary for KingdomOfPrussia :
Brandenburg : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
La Mancha : 1 flag, 1 Dragoons and 4 Horse_Artillerys
SZ9 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate
Pomerania : 1 flag, 1 General and 2 Horse_Artillerys
Murcia : 1 flag, 1 Horse_Artillery
Hesse : 1 flag, 2 Fusilierss
Cologne : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss and 17 Fusilierss
Prussia : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 1 Horse_Artillery, 2 Hussarss and 14 Mortella_Towers
Mecklenburg : 1 flag, 3 Chasseurss, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Horse_Artillerys
Rhine : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
Hanovre : 1 flag, 2 Cuirassierss, 13 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery
Production/PUs Summary :
France : 52 / 51
UnitedKingdom : 51 / 44
Spain : 43 / 38
KingdomOfPrussia : 33 / 33
Sweden : 17 / 25
AustrianEmpire : 39 / 42
OttomanEmpire : 33 / 41
Russia : 53 / 53
Dice Statistics:
Total
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 3 times
3 was rolled 1 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 2,667
Median : 2,000
Variance : 1,200
Standard Deviation : 1,095
Total rolls : 6
France Combat
2 was rolled 2 times
Average roll : 2,000
Median : 2,000
Variance : 4,000
Standard Deviation : 2,000
Total rolls : 2
KingdomOfPrussia Combat
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 1 times
3 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 2,000
Median : 2,000
Variance : 1,500
Standard Deviation : 1,225
Total rolls : 3
Sweden Combat
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 6,000
Median : 6,000
Variance : ?
Standard Deviation : ?
Total rolls : 1
I have a deja vu :-D It was the beginning of a long and wonderful journey.
pug, u505,
i am curious if there are any balancing changes i should make to napoleonic for the next version
let me know,
thx
pug, u505,
i am curious if there are any balancing changes i should make to napoleonic for the next version
let me know,
thx
An additional fortress to Vienna. And yes, I am serious about it, though I am winning with the Coalition. I can demonstrate it to you anytime you want.
I learned a lot about Ottomans and UK this game. But I need to put that knowledge into a strategy before I will judge it.
Pug
I am also very interested in both your insights and comments. We are in round 23 ourselves, with a virtually certain Coalition win. It seems, though, that both sides are very well matched, with only very few suggestions for balance.
u505 back yet?
2nd to last call for u505……
