LHoffman, I like your list a lot. those are much needed pieces and some could be redone, as well.
I do believe that the idea of a French defection/commandeer scenario has been thrown about before, both with the naval element and some sort of Vichy France rule. I personally do not care for any Vichy France additions since it is superfluous and would unnecessarily complicate play. […] I think this would make games a bit more interesting and also realistic, since French naval squadrons did not actually fight with the Allies like often happens in the game. (I know individual French ships did, but not on the scale that is referenced in A&A.)
The part of the OOB rules which says “This game doesn’t deal with the German installment of the Vichy government in France. All French units, after the fall of France, will continue to be controlled by the player that was selected to control France (US or UK).” is noteworthy because, essentially, it means that the game depicts an alternate-history scenario in which France set up a government in exile rather than surrendering and that it kept fighting on the Allied side from its colonial empire. So while the actual historical events of WWII did set up a situation in which the Vichy-controlled French fleet was mostly inactive, the game itself provides a good justification for giving the French fleet a more active role.
@CWO:
The part of the OOB rules which says “This game doesn’t deal with the German installment of the Vichy government in France. All French units, after the fall of France, will continue to be controlled by the player that was selected to control France (US or UK).” is noteworthy because, essentially, it means that the game depicts an alternate-history scenario in which France set up a government in exile rather than surrendering and that it kept fighting on the Allied side from its colonial empire. So while the actual historical events of WWII did set up a situation in which the Vichy-controlled French fleet was mostly inactive, the game itself provides a good justification for giving the French fleet a more active role.
The reasoning seems okay, and gameplay is not radically altered from history because of it. I just think it would be more fun to include other options for the French fleet. The game is an exercise in alternate history already, so including a French Navy rule would not be anything very different, or radical. I understand their justification though. And perhaps for a mass marketed game it was just the simpler thing to do.
I just think it would be more fun to include other options for the French fleet. The game is an exercise in alternate history already, so including a French Navy rule would not be anything very different, or radical.
Agreed. One nice thing about the game is that it offers a lot of scope for house rules that allow players to explore scenarios in which WWII might have deviated (in ways either probable or fanciful) from its actual course. And this has been made even easier as the OOB sculpt sets have been (and are continuing to be) expanded by the addition of new pieces and sets from HBG. It’s great to have lots of options available to us like this.
LHoffman & others,
Not to dampen anyone else’s excitement, but France is dead last on my list of anticipation, besides maybe China. Boring units with little to no war contribution and present for about 5 minutes of A&A gameplay. 99.85% of the pieces will never be used.
––While I agree 100% with you concerning the use of any French units in our 1940-Global games,….I must point out they would definately be very usefull in any Global Warfare-1939 games. I point this out not to correct my good friend “LHoffman”, but acknowledge that in general:
I’m axiously awaiting any & ALL units that HBG wants to produce,….in whatever order!
––I would say, my only exception to this might be the “Zombie Appocolyse” 1939 Expansion set.
Tall Paul
@Tall:
I must point out they would definately be very usefull in any Global Warfare-1939 games.
That is true.
Gents.
I agree all the sets that are being produced will be excellent additions to AA. That said Zombies? I live in state where there a nuts jobs who really believe in them and drive around with the words Zombie Emergency Response Team on their vehicles in case we have a real zombie invasion. They even give a valid local number and cell phone to call if you have a zombie problem to deal with.
As for a game, my jury is still out on this one. I would prefer another Super Weapons set with UK, France and Italy instead.
WARRIOR888
About how long do you expect before the new Japanese pieces are available individually?
Will there be transports included in the Axis Minor set 2?
I ask since the picture on the main page of HBG doesn’t show a transport yet the list on the set page includes a transport.
Also, it says the set would have 30 pieces, but counting all of them leads to 32.
@coachofmany:
UK Set, U.S. Set, Axis Minor Set, Facilities, French WW2, then French WW1
I’m really looking forward to the facilities set, what you got online looks great!
@coachofmany:
UK Set, U.S. Set, Axis Minor Set, Facilities, French WW2, then French WW1
I’m really looking forward to the facilities set, what you got online looks great!
I second that, and this set should be next IMHO, I don’t need any more Japanese infantry, I need plastic factories
Will there be transports included in the Axis Minor set 2?
I ask since the picture on the main page of HBG doesn’t show a transport yet the list on the set page includes a transport.
Also, it says the set would have 30 pieces, but counting all of them leads to 32.
Yes, a Transport, but still tweaking what will be in the set.
Gents.
I agree all the sets that are being produced will be excellent additions to AA. That said Zombies? I live in state where there a nuts jobs who really believe in them and drive around with the words Zombie Emergency Response Team on their vehicles in case we have a real zombie invasion. They even give a valid local number and cell phone to call if you have a zombie problem to deal with.
As for a game, my jury is still out on this one. I would prefer another Super Weapons set with UK, France and Italy instead.WARRIOR888
That falls under the “If you don’t have anything nice to say…” so yeah
@ Coach,
I hate to be “That Guy” and ask about time-frames just on the heels of releasing the second Japanese set, but I have to ask. What’s a good estimate for the release date for UK?
I would like to know that too
@ Coach,
I hate to be “That Guy” and ask about time-frames just on the heels of releasing the second Japanese set, but I have to ask. What’s a good estimate for the release date for UK?
Should have the revised bomber and 25 pounder this week and if all is good, we will release to make the mold, 4 weeks, then production, another 4 weeks.
@coachofmany:
@ Coach,
I hate to be “That Guy” and ask about time-frames just on the heels of releasing the second Japanese set, but I have to ask. What’s a good estimate for the release date for UK?
Should have the revised bomber and 25 pounder this week and if all is good, we will release to make the mold, 4 weeks, then production, another 4 weeks.
Thanks Coach. I love the Japanese sets BTW especially that Kikka and the Vals! TBH I’m more looking forward to the US and UK units even though the Japanese sets are fantastic. More often than not in my FTF games I play as the Allies so I’m really looking forward to some HBG Brits and Yanks to counter all those cool as hell Axis units you guys have produced.
@coachofmany:
Should have the revised bomber and 25 pounder this week and if all is good, we will release to make the mold, 4 weeks, then production, another 4 weeks.
What was wrong with the bomber and 25 pounder? It seemed to me like you showed a pic of the bomber and it looked great. Or was that your 3D model?
@coachofmany:
Should have the revised bomber and 25 pounder this week and if all is good, we will release to make the mold, 4 weeks, then production, another 4 weeks.
What was wrong with the bomber and 25 pounder? It seemed to me like you showed a pic of the bomber and it looked great. Or was that your 3D model?
Both Bomber and 25 pounder were too big. We received them yesterdayand they are shown on Facebook. We are pleased with them now.
Now for making the mold.
@coachofmany:
@coachofmany:
Should have the revised bomber and 25 pounder this week and if all is good, we will release to make the mold, 4 weeks, then production, another 4 weeks.
What was wrong with the bomber and 25 pounder? It seemed to me like you showed a pic of the bomber and it looked great. Or was that your 3D model?
Both Bomber and 25 pounder were too big. We received them yesterdayand they are shown on Facebook. We are pleased with them now.
Now for making the mold.
The samples look great Coach! My payday is your payday LOL! BTW that addition of the Sexton is a sweet little plus!
