XDAP - 02 Final Draft (Axis) vs Dairy Qryn (Allies)

Gargantua

I don’t see any validity to your complaint Cow,

50% of your aa’s hit on london, and I believe you also scored a number of AA hits in Eastern Poland, a poorly designed defense, which still managed to secure the allies a decent showing. Italy got diced hard in the med early, and with it’s landings / attacks.

The only reason Germany and Italy face the challenges they face currently, is because they are minus that -extra- unit or two. A good player accepts that that’s reality, and moves forward - without complaint (observation is ok, but must consider the two way street). It’s Axis and Allies man, it happens.

Belarus was awesome, but our dice weren’t much better than yours, 4 rounds at 10 attack power to kill 4 units… that’s almost HALF the amount of hits we should have recieved? Granted, you didn’t hit anything in return, so we can safely consider BOTH our dice bad.

If you lose this game, at no stage can you call it -bad luck-. The luck is a piddalance when compared to the MOUNTAIN of strategic choices both sides have made, some good, some in error.

At BEST for you, you could argue the dice even, some observers would say though, that the rolls have 60/40 the allies way over the course of the game. Look at the history and decide for yourself - and observe. But don’t complain like a moo bag. ;)

I look forward to seeing Veqryn’s post!

Veqryn

to say that games are not won and lost on luck is false,

playing dice, of course games are won or lost on good and bad luck with important rolls

which is why i prefer low luck for most of my games

that said, i think this game is relatively even overall, and that while the luck has been worse for the allies, it has only been slightly worse, and not enough to override the choices of the players at this point

Veqryn

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
1 fighter moved from India to Northwest Persia
1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to Yunnan
1 fighter moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 aaGun moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
1 fighter moved from Queensland to Dutch New Guinea

Place Units - ANZAC
1 fighter placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Veqryn

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :5

Combat Move - French
2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
French take Tunisia from Italians

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

Egypt : 1 flag, 2 infantry
Tunisia : 1 flag, 2 infantry
81 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 50
Russians : 40 / 57
Japanese : 54 / 71
Americans : 59 / 79
Chinese : 10 / 15
British : 20 / 0
UK_Pacific : 7 / 7
Italians : 16 / 22
ANZAC : 10 / 15
French : 8 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 18 / 0

satinpurplefender

Luck has it’s place on the battlefield as well. In a game such as this, luck can also been seen as the infernal accountant for intangibles. Troops don’t get tired, miss their families, disobey orders, or any of the other crap that goes on in a war.

Gargantua

Luck is when preparation meets oppurtunity.

Gargantua

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer and 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
4 armour moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Norway to Finland
2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to Finland
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Novgorod
1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from France to Western Germany
1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
2 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Novgorod

Combat - Germans
Battle in Finland
Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 tactical_bombers
Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 tactical_bombers in Finland, round 1 : 2/4 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Finland, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland
Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Yugoslavia
Germans attack with 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 : 7/16 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yugoslavia
Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Russians with 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Novgorod
Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry
Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 : 3/8 hits
Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 : 3/3 hits
3 infantry owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters
Americans defend with 1 destroyer
Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 : 2/6 hits
Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 : 0/1 hits
1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 110 Sea Zone
Germans win with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Germans
2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
5 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Poland
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Poland
2 tactical_bombers moved from Finland to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone
3 artilleries placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs

Gargantua

well you wanted your luck cow, and you got it. I don’t want to hear anymore bitchn

50% defensive hits at 2 or less is a VERY good result to be pleased with ;). And now russia should get their biggest -boon- turn of the game, let’s see what they do with it!

Cow

stfu i didn’t bitch at all. i can’t even make light of something without it being misinterpreted.

Most Holy

Heh heh. Sounds like you’re getting under his hide Garg.

Cow

lol you call that luck? are you kidding me? belarus was luck. the only thing that hit that turn were the 3 inf in karelia, gtfo. lol.

Gargantua

Yep MH, definetly under the hide.

COW Your side had 6 rolls that turn, ALL at 2 or less. You hit on 50% of those rolls instead of 33%. A near 20% better showing than anticipated is considered -lucky- yet you still complain?

Pfftp.

STRATEGY has had a hell of alot more to do with this game, than raw dice. So don’t poor sport out, fake injury, and reach for the dice welp. It’s weak.

Lean meat weak…

Gargantua

;)

Cow

so what you are saying is we got 12% lucky on Germany’s turn? Well, we got 99% unlucky on italy’s turn, you took belarus without losing anything. So I can’t see how you can say we are lucky lol.

maybe if my destroyer hit, I’d be happy.

Gargantua

The question is… how unhappy are you going to be, when MY destroyer hits? :P

Cow

well it’d just be a sub at least.

satinpurplefender

I think I pulled a hammy on J5.

Cow

what is a hammy?

satinpurplefender

A hamstring

Veqryn

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
1 bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
1 bomber moved from Russia to 127 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Albania
Russians take Albania from Italians
1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
Russians take Slovakia Hungary from Germans
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
1 armour moved from Greece to Romania
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Yenisey
Russians take Yenisey from Japanese
1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
1 armour moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - Russians
Battle in 127 Sea Zone
Russians attack with 1 bomber
Germans defend with 3 transports
3 transports owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone
Russians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
Casualties for Germans: 3 transports
Battle in Belarus
Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Italians defend with 2 armour
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 1 : 1/4 hits
Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Belarus, round 1 : 1/2 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Belarus
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits
1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Belarus
Russians win, taking Belarus from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 2 armour
Battle in Eastern Poland
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Italians defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 : 1/2 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Eastern Poland
Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
Battle in Finland
Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Finland, round 1 : 1/2 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Finland, round 1 : 1/2 hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Finland
Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 : 0/1 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 : 1/1 hits
1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland
Germans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
1 bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to Romania
1 bomber moved from Belarus to Romania
1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Olgiy to Yenisey
1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Yenisey
1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Olgiy to Timguska
10 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
1 artillery moved from Vologda to Smolensk
4 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk

Place Units - Russians
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 61 PUs

Territory Summary for Russians :

Kansu : 1 flag, 10 infantry
Yenisey : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
Timguska : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
Olgiy : 1 flag
Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
Egypt : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag, 1 armour
Slovakia Hungary : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Romania : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 8 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
Albania : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
Belarus : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Archangel : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 artillery
Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Russia : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
Volgograd : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
Caucasus : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
Smolensk : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
Bulgaria : 1 flag
Greece : 1 flag
Iraq : 1 flag
114 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser
Northwest Persia : 1 flag
Persia : 1 flag
115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 57
Russians : 41 / 61
Japanese : 53 / 71
Americans : 59 / 79
Chinese : 10 / 15
British : 20 / 0
UK_Pacific : 7 / 7
Italians : 13 / 22
ANZAC : 10 / 15
French : 8 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 18 / 0

XDAP - 02 Final Draft (Axis) vs Dairy Qryn (Allies)

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