Preview: Unit Details and Abilities

I agree it seems like it’s back to infantry push

@Veqryn:

wow…. Carriers cost 12 and BBs cost 16???

that is 2 cheaper for Carriers, and 4 cheaper for BBs

and no artillery???

I am also very surprised to see tanks at 6. 
Tanks at 6 only makes sense on a “large” map.
On a small map, Tanks make more sense at 5, since you can’t run around a stack of infantry anyway.

I have a small feeling that with Tanks at 6, and no Artillery, that this is going to turn into “mega-inf stacks” game.

house rules… i suggest adding artillery at 4 (but no support for infantry). cause tanks are expensive, but on a small map they’re supermobile…

Isn’t there a spot in the rulebook telling you what each sculpts are what?

Or just pay 5 for tanks and tell our friends, or children, that it was a printing error! We all love tanks and  if purchasing is hard we will want some.

5 ipc tanks just seem to cheap. There’s not enough distance between Berlin and Moscow. Before making changes to the game play it OOB a few times. Changing unit cost has an unbalancing effect slanting it to the Axis.

I know it sounds wrong but look at it like this. If there was a unit that cost 7 everyone would be able to buy it to afford it. If that same unit cost 14 it’s out of how many countries price range? And if you raise the price enough it gets to a point the Axis can’t afford it at all and really only America can afford it. Thus raising cost of units is doing the Allies a favor. Lowering helps the Axis.

I love the Axis and I am sure most new players will too. I  need to see the map and make my decision then. Am in England, so will be a while yet.

it looks like there’s 1 or 2 territories between berlin and moscow and Japan can land tanks in china and have them attacking southern russia the next turn. China is shallow on territories. Siberia is also shallow. Axis hold one territory in africa. The best way I can discribe it is the Classic map. China is 2 territories north and south not east and west like in classic. The IC in Leningrad from classic has been moved to Stalingrad. There are servely islands in the pacific that are in the same sea zone

It is meant to be a quick game. Short of reducing a Tank’s movement by 1, or blocking a Tank with 1 Inf each time, suppose we live  with it. Cannot wait anyway. Feel like a child again.

I know what you mean. I’ve been counting down the days. I’ve seen 3 different days for the release so I’m not 100% when the count down ends

I love how we talk. Sounds like we are signing up non believers to a cult. I have a friend’s girlfriend and a sister in law already lined up and interested(I think.)

My wife says game is over and we(Axis) won in 2 turns! I do not do Facebook.

back to the original subject, after carefully studying line drawings of all UK and US fleet carrier, I don’t think the new sculpt matches any of them.

The funnel is somewhat split from the bridge, which really eliminates all classes except the Lexington class (and the funnel is certainly not large enough to qualify as that of the Lexington class).

In addition, the AA weapons platforms on each side of the hull do not confirm to any of the following classes; Lexington, Yorktown, Wasp, Essex/Ticonderoga, Midway, Illustrious, Implacable, or Ark Royal.

The only class which comes close, in my opinion, is the cancelled Soviet Kostromitinov project.  It may seem like a stretch, but compare the weapons platforms on both sides of the forward hull of the new sculpt, and the shape of the flight deck; they are pretty close, and just do not appear similar to any UK or US design.

EDIT - Removed my link (Which was internal to AAA.org anyway), as my post was flagged as spam.

I just made a post indicating that the only Allied CV design which comes close to the new sculpt is the cancelled Soviet Kostromitinov design - however, I posted a link within this site to another thread with images, and my post was marked as spam and removed. I apologize if I unknowingly violated the site’s rules regarding links, but the link was purely internal (to another thread). Anyway, I’m too lazy to repost my comparison right now - maybe later.

@AG124:

I just made a post indicating that the only Allied CV design which comes close to the new sculpt is the cancelled Soviet Kostromitinov design - however, I posted a link within this site to another thread with images, and my post was marked as spam and removed. I apologize if I unknowingly violated the site’s rules regarding links, but the link was purely internal (to another thread). Anyway, I’m too lazy to repost my comparison right now - maybe later.

I’m with AG124 on this. I’ve looked through US carriers. I’ve looked through UK carriers. I can’t find one where the deck and stack seem to match the new sculpt. It’s just as close to the Yorktown or Essex as it is the Ark Royal. I looked at some drawings of the Kostromitinov as well. None of these seem to have a square deck with separated stack lower than the top of the tower. I will be curious as to the answer.

do battleships repair themselves or do they stay tipped?
do they bombard?

nevermind i read the posts on your article and it answers my questions
for those like myself that missed it the first time

yes to repair, no to bombardment

Oh, the bombardment is gone too? That’s even simpler than Classic. That would explain the cheaper price some. 2 hits, 1@4 BB for 16 vs 2 hits, 2@2 subs for 16… hmmm, I’m thinking subs is a slightly better buy unless you have some protection for that BB.

Want to identify the carrier? Have at it… a good place to start is here:

http://voodoo-world.cz/ww2car/index.html

@reloader-1:

Want to identify the carrier? Have at it… a good place to start is here:
http://voodoo-world.cz/ww2car/index.html

Another place to look which might be even better, because the images are of simplified miniatures rather than photos of real ships, is the section of the Panzerschiffe catalog…

http://www.panzerschiffe.com/Catalog.html

…titled “World War II”.  Clicking on it gives a list of countries.  In each country, you’ll find a list of ships.  Each ship entry has a “Click” link in the “Image” column which will call up a small photo.  There are quite a few carriers listed in the catalog.