• Never boast you could organize SAMs….

    Just like that Brit who did that, and some FBI agents overheard that boasting. So the FBI sent two agents in disguise, who made a very good offer, while the guy kept on boasting that he even could get the famous SA-18 Igla2. So the FBI contacted the FSB of theRussians, who prepared an Igla2 (which was prepared not to work), and these used weapon traders to get that rocket to the Brit. The transport was odd enough: the Brit decalred the rockets as “medical equipment”, and it is questionable that it has passed the controls at the ports without any agencies or bureaus intervention…

    what a great success in the war against terrorism, what a great “Breaking News” …

    See also:
    http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,261094,00.html
    in german


  • Correctly if I’m not following this correctly, but the FBI agents sold a Brit a SAM that didn’t work? Uh… I don’t exactly make the connection to the blow against terrorism here.


  • also an article about it in today’s NY Times.
    the point is that a man was able to “import” a SAM and sell it to an undercover agent posing as Al Queda. Had this been real Al Queda, and had it been a working SAM, then there could be a whole lot 'o mischief . . . .


  • Oh I see now. Yeah, well secruity isn’t that tight as one would believe, except for airports, the least likely place a terrorist would strike.


  • yea, thats the problem. the government sees what terrorists have done, then guard against these things, when most likely, they will change their methods next time.


  • @Janus1:

    yea, thats the problem. the government sees what terrorists have done, then guard against these things, when most likely, they will change their methods next time.

    yeah, but the terrorists would not change their methods if there was no “guard against these things”.


  • given, but they should think ahead, and guard against other things as well


  • @cystic:

    also an article about it in today’s NY Times.
    the point is that a man was able to “import” a SAM and sell it to an undercover agent posing as Al Queda. Had this been real Al Queda, and had it been a working SAM, then there could be a whole lot 'o mischief . . . .

    Well, it seems like without the help of the US and Russian services, the guy would have neither been able to “import” it or even get his hands on it abroad.

    @TG:

    Correctly if I’m not following this correctly, but the FBI agents sold a Brit a SAM that didn’t work? Uh… I don’t exactly make the connection to the blow against terrorism here.

    Close. And the thing is exactly that there is no blow against terrorism that is sold as a blow against terrorism.


  • Well, it seems like without the help of the US and Russian services, the guy would have neither been able to “import” it or even get his hands on it abroad.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that a good thing?


  • @TG:

    Well, it seems like without the help of the US and Russian services, the guy would have neither been able to “import” it or even get his hands on it abroad.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that a good thing?

    Yes, unless there are corrupt USies or Russians. :-?


  • Ah, I see. Well, there will always been some of those. :-?


  • points to self


  • You really are a pirate, aren’tcha? :wink:


  • Through and Through

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