XPAD-01 SOUL GOO (Axis) vs. Cannibalized by Fluff

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 unit repaired.
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 battleship moved from 41 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
                  Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
            1 artillery moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            2 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
                  Japanese take Siberia from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            1 artillery moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Sikang
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang
            2 fighters moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Dutch New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Dutch New Guinea

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 3 transports
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 battleship and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Dutch New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Dutch New Guinea, round 1 :  2/8 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea
                Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Sikang
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sikang, round 1 :  5/5 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter in Sikang, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Chinese and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sikang
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Japanese player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Japanese to Szechwan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from India to West India
            1 bomber moved from Sikang to India
            1 bomber moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Sikang to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 23 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 23 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 23 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 23 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            3 infantry placed in India
            1 factory_minor placed in West India
            2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in Japan
            1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
            Japanese undo move 2.
            1 destroyer placed in 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in India
            1 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 69 PUs; end with 69 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 airfield, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Kiangsu : 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Japan : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Jehol : 2 infantry
    Shensi : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Yunnan : 1 flag,    Suiyuyan : 1 flag,    Kweichow : 1 flag,    Hunan : 1 flag,    Kansu : 1 flag,    Hopei : 1 flag,    Szechwan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag,    Anhwe : 1 flag,    Shan State : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Burma : 1 flag,    India : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Borneo : 1 flag,    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Siberia : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    French Indo China : 1 flag,    Celebes : 1 flag,    Java : 1 flag,    Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
    Sumatra : 1 flag,

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 4 bombers, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                  Americans take Algeria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Morocco to Tunisia
                  Americans take Tunisia from Italians
            2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Solomon Islands to 49 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Solomon Islands to 49 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 49 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 mech_infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Americans

Place Units - Americans
            4 bombers placed in Eastern United States
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 2.
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Marshall Islands : 1 flag,    Queensland : 4 fighters
    New South Wales : 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    26 Sea Zone : 3 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 5 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    10 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 bombers, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Gibraltar : 1 mech_infantry
    Morocco : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Tunisia : 1 flag, 1 armour
    86 Sea Zone : 2 transports
    92 Sea Zone : 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport
    101 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
    Brazil : 1 flag, 3 infantry
    91 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 48 / 62
    Russians : 37 / 46
    Japanese : 69 / 79
    Americans : 55 / 75
    Chinese : 2 / 3
    British : 29 / 33
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 11 / 22
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

oops, slight mistake, infantry and mech supposed to be on Hawaii, not in the sea. Can you edit for me Q?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            Giving bonus movement to units
            3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
                  British take Normandy Bordeaux from Germans
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
                  British take Holland Belgium from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Syria
                  British take Syria from Germans
            1 artillery moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Union of South Africa to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - British
            Battle in 39 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - British
            2 submarines moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Little edit for UK subs.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Politics - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Italians player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:British from 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Italians player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:British to 78 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Italians player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:British from 78 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Italians player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:British to 58 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Italians player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:British from 80 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Italians player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:British to 58 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Game Loaded
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                French is now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Dutch is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                ANZAC is now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                UK_Pacific is now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_True is now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tunisia
            2 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to Tunisia

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 1 :  4/13 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Italians win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Italians win with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 armour
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 fighters in Tunisia, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Tunisia, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Tunisia
                Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour
                Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Tunisia to 95 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Tobruk : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 5 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    96 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    95 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
    Greece : 1 flag,
Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 62
    Russians : 35 / 46
    Japanese : 69 / 79
    Americans : 55 / 75
    Chinese : 2 / 2
    British : 35 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 13 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units
            4 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
            1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            2 fighters moved from Northern Territory to Queensland

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 13 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Queensland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New South Wales : 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    54 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    62 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
    Egypt : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 62
    Russians : 35 / 46
    Japanese : 69 / 79
    Americans : 55 / 75
    Chinese : 2 / 2
    British : 35 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 13 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

Edit mode:
2 inf NIta -> SIta
2 inf WGer, inf art Fra -> NIta
arm WGer -> pol
2 inf WGer -> EGer
sub dd 115 -> 113

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Poland to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Finland to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/6 hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/3 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans , 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 4 transports in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 transport owned by the British , 1 bomber owned by the Germans , 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    3 transports owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Novgorod, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Novgorod, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            2 aaGuns, 6 armour, 5 artilleries, 26 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            2 carriers placed in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans undo move 1.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from France: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Southern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Northern Italy: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Northern Italy: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Northern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 1 armour
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Poland: 1 armour
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to 113 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 carriers placed in 112 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Poland : 2 aaGuns, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 26 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 factory_major, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Holland Belgium : 1 armour and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Karelia : 1 flag,    Baltic States : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Vyborg : 1 flag, 2 armour, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag,    Ukraine : 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    112 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    113 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    95 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
    Bulgaria : 1 flag,    115 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 2 transports
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag,    Finland : 1 flag,
Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 59
    Russians : 31 / 46
    Japanese : 69 / 79
    Americans : 55 / 75
    Chinese : 2 / 2
    British : 30 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 13 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Poland to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Finland to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/6 hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/3 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans , 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 4 transports in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 transport owned by the British , 1 bomber owned by the Germans , 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    3 transports owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 4 transports
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Novgorod, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Novgorod, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            2 aaGuns, 6 armour, 5 artilleries, 26 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            2 carriers placed in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans undo move 1.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from France: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Southern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Northern Italy: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Northern Italy: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Northern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 1 armour
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Poland: 1 armour
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from 115 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to 113 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 carriers placed in 112 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Poland : 2 aaGuns, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 26 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 factory_major, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Holland Belgium : 1 armour and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Karelia : 1 flag,     Baltic States : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Vyborg : 1 flag, 2 armour, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag,     Ukraine : 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    112 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    113 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    95 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
    Bulgaria : 1 flag,     115 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 2 transports
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag,     Finland : 1 flag,
Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 59
    Russians : 31 / 46
    Japanese : 69 / 79
    Americans : 55 / 75
    Chinese : 2 / 2
    British : 30 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
    Italians : 13 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Hi, Soul. Those 4 airs are not allowed to move to SZ 110. Would you like to the turn again?

yes they are allowed to go there, they land on the mobilized carriers, there is an airbase in S. Italy, four spaces to 110, 1 space to 112, its a perfectly legal move and that is the reason why TripleA allowed it.  They moved their 5 spaces they are alloted and landed on a mobilized carrier.

Yep, it’s a valid move.

They have no place to land in the non-combat phase. How is that valid?

Anyone show me an official link to explain this rule please. You still need to know the rules regardless Triplea allows or not. Like Tac-bmb bomb factory thing, Triplea still gets bugs.

I misunderstand this rule for fighters.  Sorry about that. I think I am confused with previous version.
That’s silly mistake. May I edit it please and do the Germany turn again? Just to make it a competitive game.

I just find out it is the same rule in AA50. Strangely I have a wrong rule in my mind all the time till now.

You’d like us to wind the game all the way back to Britain’s turn, Q?  That seems a lot excessive.  I had to use 32 IPC on 2 carriers that might otherwise be completely useless the rest of this game.  The 32 IPC in carriers is the same as the 28 IPC in transport you lost and I still got 4 ftr burned down.

Germany has spent 62 IPCs already and the Allies still hold a TUV advantage and a 20 IPC a turn income advantage.  To ask for a competitive game while leading in both is a bit of a farce, do you not agree?