XDAP-01 Creature Commandos (Axis) vs. Team BoldDutch (Allies)

Thank you Great and Glorious Leader for the arbitration decision.  Gargantua is the best tournament moderator (no offense to any other intended), but one reason this tournament will be so successful is because he is involved and he gives a damn. Â

I defer to MIR and Bold as well. Â

However, I must state my feelings on the situation for the record.  A $41 penalty is absurb.  Reducing the IC, OK, but taking the money as if it never existed is too harsh, although admittedly probably deserved.  But at the minimum, the 7 inf should still be allowed to mobilize, either in Moscow or be held over in storage to the following turn to be placed at an IC.  Just vanishing them entirely doesn’t make any sense.

This is what I would offer to an opponent: The units are held in storage to be mobilized on your next turn and you get your $20 back in your coffers. Â

The player is already penalized by having to wait 2 rounds to spend his IPC, mobilize those units, and move them forward.  For me, that’s enough of a penalty.  I don’t get why it has to be punative sanction to the tune of $41.  And those that have played me know that I am as laid back on rule-related adjustments as anybody on here, so I do walk-the-walk.  That’s what I would offer because that is a fair adjustment that puts things as close to realistic as if the rule has not been violated.  If the opponent had a legitimate gripe that having a boat-load of cash saved up would have caused them to make different purchases and moves, then perhaps it gets parsed out over a couple or three rounds or something.

Now, on DAAK, those stupid Euros would blame the opponent for not noticing the rule mistake, and say “tough, you should have caught it when your opponent built that major IC.”  And they would let it be. Essentially condoning cheating that doesn’t get caught. That is certainly as idiodic as anything I can think of.

And, I’ll take the full blame for the major IC.  I suggested it to Bold as an either/or with a minor IC in W Ukraine.  I thought they had fixed that rule, because it really is one of the stupidest rules.  I was showing my brother BigBadGoo the map and he pointed it out to me.  The latest 3.9 doesn’t mention it, so I asked about it in the Global FAQ forum before it was even pointed out to me by MIR or Gazza. Â

But, what is done is done.  Play on Hirohito!

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Not sure why all the question marks are that post.  I DID NOT type those…

Well, with that scenerio, I would agree.  If a player was allowed to keep units on the board and keep their current position, then a $20 penalty is probably fair…. but he deleted them… 7 inf abducted by aliens.

He deleted 'em, it’s in the History. I didn’t see an add back anywhere in the edits.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 7 bombers; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 armour moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Greece
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
                  Americans take Marianas from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa
            1 mech_infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Greece
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 airfield and 1 artillery
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Greece, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Greece, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                Americans win, taking Greece from Italians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
                Americans win with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            1 mech_infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Kiangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 armour moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 carriers and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 15 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Syria
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Brazil to French Guiana
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to West India

Place Units - Americans
            7 bombers placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 69 PUs; end with 72 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Iwo Jima : 1 flag,    Formosa : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Kiangsi : 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
    Marianas : 1 flag, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Borneo : 1 flag,    Philippines : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield and 1 infantry
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 7 bombers, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    41 Sea Zone : 1 transport

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: games.strategy.engine.data.ProductionFrontier called productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            Giving bonus movement to units
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Chinese player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Russians to Ukraine: 7 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Chinese take Burma from Japanese

Combat - Chinese
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Kwangsi
            6 infantry placed in Yunnan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 23 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 23 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Shantung : 1 flag,    Kwangsi : 1 flag, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 15 infantry
    Kiangsu : 1 flag,    Kiangsi : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Jehol : 1 flag,    Manchuria : 1 flag,    Yunnan : 6 infantry
    Burma : 1 flag, 1 infantry

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 79 Sea Zone to India
            1 fighter moved from 79 Sea Zone to India
            1 cruiser moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in India
                British attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 7 infantry
                    AA guns fire in India :  0/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 cruisers in India, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in India, round 1 :  5/14 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry in India, round 1 :  4/9 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the British , 5 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in India
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in India, round 2 :  5/10 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in India, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British , 1 armour owned by the Japanese , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in India
                British win, taking India from Japanese, taking Burma from Chinese, taking Borneo from Americans with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry
                Casualties for British: 6 infantry
                British win with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry
                Casualties for British: 6 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - British
            1 carrier moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 80 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece
            1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 submarine placed in 71 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Persia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Territory Summary for British :

India : 2 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    41 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    39 Sea Zone : 2 cruisers and 2 transports
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    Gibraltar : 1 airfield, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 1 airfield
    United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Syria : 1 flag,    Tobruk : 1 flag,    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag,    Ethiopia : 1 flag,    80 Sea Zone : 1 submarine and 2 transports
    Greece : 2 fighters
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag,    71 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    98 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :8

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
                Some units change owners in territory India

Territory Summary for UK_Pacific :

India : 1 factory_minor

I added the Russians to Ukraine.  Seemed a little wrong to put em in Bessarabia, even with the $20 penalty.  If the minor had been built in W Ukr, then that is pretty close to what Stalin would have.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 bomber; Remaining resources: 7 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
                  UK_Pacific take Malaya from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya

Combat - ANZAC
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to Sumatra
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from South Australia to Western Australia
            1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 bomber placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 21 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Malaya : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Queensland : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New South Wales : 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Western Australia : 2 aaGuns, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Java : 1 flag,    Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Sumatra : 1 fighter

Nah buddy, c’mon.  I don’t mean to offend you, but it’s France.  The problem with France is that it is full of French people. The rest of Europe is probably worth saving (especially the Netherlands  8-) ), but the next Frenchy I meat that is worth a damn will be the first.  I had a bad experience with a Frency as recently as a few weeks ago…just one more in a long line of Frenchy jerks.  I am president of the local anti-Frenchy club for a reason.  Bunch of lazy, selfish, arrogant, liars.*  Yea, we may just want to leave the Nazis in France, may just be the best for the rest of the world.

• French Canadians are largely excluded from this rant.