Starting a new game of Eur 40 tonight - using Alpha 3 (Advice needed)

@Eisenhower

Hey man, with the Naval Base on America’s Eastern USA territory, you can reach Sea Zone 91, bordering Gibraltar and Morocco. You can drop troops in either. Note that your ships can only pass through into the Mediterranean if the Allies control Gibraltar.

You can also get back in one turn via the Naval Base there.

If Germany is building an air fleet, make sure the UK puts an Air Base in Gibraltar for scrambling.

Thank you, that actually helped a lot. We had a general idea of the subs ability to submerge unless facing destroyers, but that got a little confusing when it came to combined arms.  Your comment about dice actually sorted that out. Thanks a bunch, I’m sure I’ll be back with questions about convoys, bombing, and scrambling once we play again.

@Frontovik:

the 2 anzac inf on egypt are supposed to be changed to 1 british inf i thought
i’ve read it somewhere.

I don’t recall that (but I could be wrong). I remember only the old ANZAC fighter in the UK being switched for French.  The Egyptian ANZAC infantry were simply omitted (similar to the original OOB Global Setup)

@Boyardee:

But what are the income of the US???

I covered that with as near a correct answer as you’re likely to see until Alpha3 is finalized but again:

In Europe starting territory @ 35 when at war:

10 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Eastern United States, Central United States, and Western United States. Theme: Basic national sovereignty.
5 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Alaska, Aleutian Islands, Hawaiian Islands, Johnston Island, and Line Islands. Theme: National sovereignty issues
5 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Mexico, South Eastern Mexico, Central America, and West Indies. Theme: Defense treaty and trade obligations.
5 IPCs if the United States controls Philippines. Theme: Center of American influence in Asia.
5 IPCs for each turn that the US has at least one land unit in the territory “France”. Theme: Great Alliance collaboration

For an objective total of 20, down from 35 in OOB.  It’s possible that NO1 will be increased for Europe alone (combining 1 & 2, etc).

In Pacific:
Starting territory @ 17 and when at war:

10 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Eastern United States, Central United States, and Western United States. Theme: Basic national sovereignty.
5 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Alaska, Aleutian Islands, Hawaiian Islands, Johnston Island, and Line Islands. Theme: National sovereignty issues
5 IPCs if the United States controls all of the following territories: Mexico, South Eastern Mexico, Central America, and West Indies. Theme: Defense treaty and trade obligations.
5 IPCs if the United States controls Philippines. Theme: Center of American influence in Asia.
5 IPCs for each turn that the US has at least one land unit in the territory “France”. Theme: Great Alliance collaboration

For an objective total of 25, down from 50.  It’s VERY LIKELY that NO1 will have to be increased for Pacific alone (somewhere in the realm of another 15 to 20, increasing NO1 to 25 and the possible total to 40 to 45)

However, this is probably the number 1 issue that has not been resolved between the theater games and the global games (and the US income swing is probably also the number 1 thing that determines balance).  Unfortunately, most playtest energy has been focused on the Global game and very few people playtest the theatre games, so it remains unresolved.

I thought I had seen one as well, but I was unable to find it……

Corrected:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=20856.0

It would be great if some people would play the Europe game with the Alpha setup and report their results at Larry’s site.  Just replace the two ANZAC infantry in Egypt with one UK infantry and ignore any references to Pacific territories in US NOs, and you should be good to go.

@squirrelfox:

Well, I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing the Soviet battleship leaving the Baltic Sea.  Makes it easier to ferry troops to Leningrad when I don’t have to take out that annoying Red Fleet, and I can take it out when I spread out into the Atlantic.  So it COULD potentially be useful to Germany to let the neutral Soviet fleet out of the Baltic.  I’d have to see it in action first before passing judgment, though.  Could be interesting… I may try it, see what happens.

I think that letting the Soviet BB hook up with the Royal Navy would be bad news for Germany. Better, as the Offspring song exhorts, to “keep 'em separated”.

okay here is what I do take (1sub, 1fighter) to 109 (2subs, 1fighter, 1tatical) to 110 and 111 (battelship cruiser fighter tatical) to 112
(infantry, artillery) to Normandy (5infantry, artillery, 4 mech, 5tanks, bomber) to France

-this will let you take out most of the RN with just subs as loses and there will nothing that the U.K. can do take europe.

france will be controlled by Germany. just build a destoryer in seasone 112 to prevent fighter attack on your navy. build a minor factory in Romaina this will frist let you build units in a better position in eastern europe + let you build subs for the med. with this and Normandy you should be able to help out Italy enough

Larry Harris has confirmed that there should be around 20 units defending Russia’s eastern front.