Triple A is cool. And over the years, it has given us a lot of hours of fun.
We’re just advising about the bugs we find in here, not criticising Triple A or its creators in any way.
My buddy, Pomme, who found the latest bug has also donated 50$ to Triple A yesterday.
We’ll just keep downloading the latest versions/maps when they’ll be released.
Meanwhile, this thread is also to be used to keep mentioning the bugs as they are found.
:wink:
Triple A is cool. And over the years, it has given us a lot of hours of fun.
We’re just advising about the bugs we find in here, not criticising Triple A or its creators in any way.
My buddy, Pomme, who found the latest bug has also donated 50$ to Triple A yesterday.
We’ll just keep downloading the latest versions/maps when they’ll be released.
Meanwhile, this thread is also to be used to keep mentioning the bugs as they are found.
:wink:Â
ditto
Here’s the big question:
How much do I have to donate so that this thing could be updated with all these bugs fixed in 2-3 weeks vs 2-3 months down the road???
Riddle me that Batman. :wink:
Triple A is cool. And over the years, it has given us a lot of hours of fun.
We’re just advising about the bugs we find in here, not criticising Triple A or its creators in any way.
My buddy, Pomme, who found the latest bug has also donated 50$ to Triple A yesterday.
We’ll just keep downloading the latest versions/maps when they’ll be released.
Meanwhile, this thread is also to be used to keep mentioning the bugs as they are found.
:wink:�
ditto
Here’s the big question:
How much do I have to donate so that this thing could be updated with all these bugs fixed in 2-3 weeks vs 2-3 months down the road???
Riddle me that Batman. :wink:
$300
just kidding
obviously it is my goal to make bug fixes as fast as I can, but you have to remember I also have a life besides triplea
in addition to that, the biggest problem with bugs is simply that I don’t know about them.
now, if I release a new version in 2 weeks, and then later people find other bugs, then i’ve just broken everyone’s savegames for nothing (new releases of triplea tend to break savegame compatibility)
secondly, sometimes fixing a bug introduces a new bug, or the fix is worse than the problem. I’m not a perfect coder, even though I test my code more than anyone else I know.
That is why we have a release cycle.
After a stable is released, we start making new changes, and bug fixes. Then, later, we release an “unstable / beta” version. This version is called unstable/beta because it is not fully tested. After this is released, I hope people try the new version and find bugs. After one or two unstable/beta versions, I release a new stable. If people do not test the unstable/beta versions enough, than we end up having a buggy stable version.
So, I’ll try to work hard on everything and see if I can do a release in a month from now. It will be beta/unstable, but at least it will be something to go on.
Wow there seems to be quite a few bugs after all…and the next update isn’t for 2-3 months???..uughh.
Probably need a compiled list of bugs for Garg’s tournament. That will be hard to keep track of.
Download the latest version of Global 1940 first. Current version is 2.7
List of bugs (all of which I have fixed for next version):
1. Do not used edit mode to create a battle. (will cause fatal error)
2. If you do an amphibious attack, and there is no sea battle, and the enemy Could Scramble. Please save the game before the end of your combat move phase. TripleA will not ask about scrambling unless there is a sea battle. Please used edit mode to move the enemy fighters manually to create the battle. Do this before the end of the combat move phase.
(edit mode -> delete fighter from original territory -> create new fighter in sea zone)
3. If a move is legal, but somehow TripleA does not allow it, use Edit Mode to make it happen. Also, continue watching for moves that TripleA allows, but are actually illegal.
Things that are not bugs, but you should know about them:
1. Convoy Blockade system uses the average damage, not a dice roll.
2. Do not use technology for Global 1940.
that is it.
I’ll release a new version of global 1940 map soon to fix the bug pomme found.
Thanks V…
Another new rule that are not yet implemented are that attackers should get to pick what air units are lost to aa hits.
Keep up the good work! :-)
Another new rule that are not yet implemented are that attackers should get to pick what air units are lost to aa hits.
Keep up the good work! :-)
Really?
I thought it was chosen randomly?
Actually, we are already able to do this…. we have a game option called “choose aa casualties” which allows it. I have it turned off because no game since classic uses it.
I like random better… but if this is for real I will change it…
Another new rule that are not yet implemented are that attackers should get to pick what air units are lost to aa hits.
Keep up the good work! :-)
Really?
I thought it was chosen randomly?
…
Mistergreen is right.
Alpha final says:
Air Defense: AA guns can only fire at an air unit when that unit attacks the territory containing
that AA gun. AA guns fire only once, before the first round of combat. Each AA gun in the
territory may fire up to three times, but only once per attacking air unit. In other words, the total
number of air defense dice rolled is three times the number of AA guns, or the number of
attacking air units, whichever is the lesser. Once the number of air defense dice is determined,
the dice are rolled. For each “1” rolled, the attacker must choose one air unit as a casualty.
These casualties are removed immediately, and will not participate in the remainder of the
battle. This AA gun attack is made immediately before normal combat occurs in the territory
containing the AA gun. AA guns do not defend facilities against strategic or tactical bombing.
Facilities have their own “built in” air defenses.
and
Bombing Run
Bombers are assigned to targets.
Strategic bombers can be assigned to any target (IC’s, naval bases. airbase).
Tactical bombers can be assigned only to naval bases and airbases.
Each targeted facility fires @ 1, each can fire one time at each bomber that is attacking it.
All casualties at both stages of the raid are chosen by the owners of the units involved.
(In AA50 and Spring 1942 the defender has to assign specific dice rolls to specific aircraft, if there is a mix of fighters and bombers attacking.)
FYI:
Global was updated today to version 2.8
(that is the file version)
You guys all need to redownload it.
The fixes:
2.8
Fixed issue with Japanese objective for Trade with America.
Allowed user to choose AA casualties.
Everyone needs to download it.
Make sure that both you and your opponents have it. If your opponent does not have it, then you might end up playing by the old version….
A few other items I have noticed in my travels:
1. I could not NCM a british sub into Sz109, because it had a german sub in it. I also couldn’t NCM a transport to unload there (Which is a LEGAL move in NCM). I used the edit feature to fix this, but It caused an error screen - and wouldn’t allow me to post the turn summary.
2. When Italy Declares war on Russia, that DOES NOT mean Germany and Russia are automatically at war. If the german player chooses, he can negate declaring war, so as to collect the +5 IPC bonus for not being at war with Russia. On the Russian turn, they can then CHOOSE to declare war on Germany. That said, if it is turn 5, Russia can -also- choose to declare war on either Germany, OR Italy. This becomes increasingly exciting, when post sea-lion or on a G5, that has seen no Attack (to collect the $5), russia can attack places defended by BOTH countries (namely naval elements) and the other side can’t defend them! This is a great trick for Russia to sink Italian ships protected by German Planes for example.
3. My opponent in a current game, could not NCM his Japanese sub underneath/past my destroyer. We used the EDIT feature to fix this.
A few other items I have noticed in my travels:
1. I could not NCM a british sub into Sz109, because it had a german sub in it. I also couldn’t NCM a transport to unload there (Which is a LEGAL move in NCM). I used the edit feature to fix this, but It caused an error screen - and wouldn’t allow me to post the turn summary.
2. When Italy Declares war on Russia, that DOES NOT mean Germany and Russia are automatically at war. If the german player chooses, he can negate declaring war, so as to collect the +5 IPC bonus for not being at war with Russia. On the Russian turn, they can then CHOOSE to declare war on Germany. That said, if it is turn 5, Russia can -also- choose to declare war on either Germany, OR Italy. This becomes increasingly exciting, when post sea-lion or on a G5, that has seen no Attack (to collect the $5), russia can attack places defended by BOTH countries (namely naval elements) and the other side can’t defend them! This is a great trick for Russia to sink Italian ships protected by German Planes for example.
3. My opponent in a current game, could not NCM his Japanese sub underneath/past my destroyer. We used the EDIT feature to fix this.
I’ll work on #2.
Please give me a savegame for #1.
You can never move subs under destroyers when at war, i thought.
Concerning No 3:
From the Rulebook:
“A destroyer cancels the Treat Hostile Sea Zones as Friendly unit characteristic of any enemy submarine that moves into the sea zone with it. This means that the submarine must immediately end its movement, whether combat or noncombat, upon entering the sea zone. If a submarine ends its combat movement in a sea zone with an enemy destroyer combat will result.”
(It’s been like this in AA50 and Spring42, too.)
#1
Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956256#msg956256
This post has the American save file - JUST before the British turn
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956243#msg956243
#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.
Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603
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#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603
In the end it does not matter whether Destroyer or Cruiser.
My quotation from the rules was meant as proof, that also on NCM a submarine may enter a hostile seazone.
Even a hostile seazone with an enemy destroyer in it.
@P@nther:
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#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603In the end it does not matter whether Destroyer or Cruiser.
My quotation from the rules was meant as proof, that also on NCM a submarine may enter a hostile seazone.
Even a hostile seazone with an enemy destroyer in it.
So you are allowed now to non-combat move a submarine into a hostile seazone? Interesting.
Before I fix this, I need to know 1 thing: Is this also allowed in ANY other A&A rules-set?
In other words, can you also do this in AA50 / Spring1942?
(i need to know because when I fix it, I have to tell the engine which rules sets allow what, and not allow what, etc, because there is no separate engine for each game type)
@P@nther:
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#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603In the end it does not matter whether Destroyer or Cruiser.
My quotation from the rules was meant as proof, that also on NCM a submarine may enter a hostile seazone.
Even a hostile seazone with an enemy destroyer in it.So you are allowed now to non-combat move a submarine into a hostile seazone? Interesting.
Before I fix this, I need to know 1 thing: Is this also allowed in ANY other A&A rules-set?
In other words, can you also do this in AA50 / Spring1942?(i need to know because when I fix it, I have to tell the engine which rules sets allow what, and not allow what, etc, because there is no separate engine for each game type)
Yes, it is clearly stated in the rules. Keyword for subs is: “Treat hostile seazone as friendly”.
As well for AA50 as Spring42.
:-)
If the enemy ship is a destroyer the sub must stop
(in combat move combat will occur, in NCM the sub’s move just ends). If the enemy ship is any other, the sub may stop or proceed.
@P@nther:
@P@nther:
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#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603In the end it does not matter whether Destroyer or Cruiser.
My quotation from the rules was meant as proof, that also on NCM a submarine may enter a hostile seazone.
Even a hostile seazone with an enemy destroyer in it.So you are allowed now to non-combat move a submarine into a hostile seazone? Interesting.
Before I fix this, I need to know 1 thing: Is this also allowed in ANY other A&A rules-set?
In other words, can you also do this in AA50 / Spring1942?(i need to know because when I fix it, I have to tell the engine which rules sets allow what, and not allow what, etc, because there is no separate engine for each game type)
Yes, it is clearly stated in the rules. Keyword for subs is: “Treat hostile seazone as friendly”.
As well for AA50 as Spring42.
:-)If the enemy ship is a destroyer the sub must stop
(in combat move combat will occur, in NCM the sub’s move just ends). If the enemy ship is any other, the sub may stop or proceed.
What about Revised and Classic?
Are you sure that in all versions of A&A, you can noncombat move a submarine into and stop in a sea zone with enemy surface warships, regardless of destroyer or not?
Currently, TripleA allows a submarine to pass through a sea zone with enemy surface warships (cruisers), but not stop in (if it is noncombat move).
#1
Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956256#msg956256This post has the American save file - JUST before the British turn
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956243#msg956243#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.
Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603
Hi Garg,
#1. I fixed earlier when Pomme found the bug. Try it again with a sea zone that isn’t a convoy zone, and you will find that the sub and transport can enter the zone just fine.
#3. This is NOT a bug. I loaded the save and was able to successfully move the Submarines through the Cruiser. I don’t know what Chris was doing, but I think he was trying to move it through the nearby destroyer instead.
You can set the path units take by clicking “CTRL” on the territory you want them to move through. I clicked “CTRL” on the cruiser’s territory, and was able to move my subs through it, both during combat move and noncombat move.
@P@nther:
@P@nther:
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#3 Sorry I was typing too fast. It was a CRUISER and not a destroyer.Reference
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27185.msg956603#msg956603In the end it does not matter whether Destroyer or Cruiser.
My quotation from the rules was meant as proof, that also on NCM a submarine may enter a hostile seazone.
Even a hostile seazone with an enemy destroyer in it.So you are allowed now to non-combat move a submarine into a hostile seazone? Interesting.
Before I fix this, I need to know 1 thing: Is this also allowed in ANY other A&A rules-set?
In other words, can you also do this in AA50 / Spring1942?(i need to know because when I fix it, I have to tell the engine which rules sets allow what, and not allow what, etc, because there is no separate engine for each game type)
Yes, it is clearly stated in the rules. Keyword for subs is: “Treat hostile seazone as friendly”.
As well for AA50 as Spring42.
:-)If the enemy ship is a destroyer the sub must stop
(in combat move combat will occur, in NCM the sub’s move just ends). If the enemy ship is any other, the sub may stop or proceed.What about Revised and Classic?
Are you sure that in all versions of A&A, you can noncombat move a submarine into and stop in a sea zone with enemy surface warships, regardless of destroyer or not?
Currently, TripleA allows a submarine to pass through a sea zone with enemy surface warships (cruisers), but not stop in (if it is noncombat move).
Sorry, I don’t know how it was in Revised and Classic, as I never played those.
Someone else must help out here, please.
At least I found something in LHTR2.0 for Revised:
“Special Abilities: Treat Hostile Sea Zones as Friendly: A submarine can move through a sea zone that contains enemy units. However, if it ends its combat move in a hostile sea zone, combat will occur. A submarine cannot end a noncombat move in a hostile sea zone. If a submarine enters a sea zone containing an enemy destroyer, it must end its movement there.”
This indicates that it was different before.
The description for Europe/Pacific/Global/AA50 and Spring42 is:
“Treat Hostile Sea Zones as Friendly: A submarine can move through a sea zone that contains enemy units, either in combat or noncombat movement. However, if a submarine enters a sea zone containing an enemy destroyer, it must end its movement there. If it ends its combat move in a hostile sea zone, combat will occur.”
HTH :-)
