20 Spitfires buried in Burma, in crates/never assembled could be found soon.

@imperious-leader

I think Japan still would have invaded the Soviet Union though, if the Second Sino-Japanese War continued (the oil embargo only really happened once they invaded Indochina).

Other than that I agree with you. That would be curious alternate reality.

I think I Go with the Sherman Firefly in this case, since I prefer a 5-men-crew in Tanks.
This is my plus I give to the Firefly ,for wich I choose the Firefly over the T34/85.

@ABWorsham:

Stug III if I get off the first shot.

If the engagement is any longer than the first shot, give me the T-34.

By the way love the question.

Me too. Sorry I did not say, Aequitas.

@CWO:

@toblerone77:

Marc, did you ever own any Table Tactics pieces?�Â

Yes, I own pieces from all the sets TT produced, including the little Abrams tanks they made.  Much better M1s (except for their size, which is a trifle big) were made for the old Supremacy game, and were later re-manufactured by another company as gaming supply items.  HBG sells them:

http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Other-Modern-Pieces_c_133.html

A funny additional story about the article on that gaming convention.  The reporter was taken around the convention floor by one of the organizers, who at one point showed him a WWII tactical game in progress at one of the tables.  The organizer explained that this was a battle on the Eastern Front between German and Russian forces, then commented "As you can see, the Germans are about to get flanked."  According to the reporter, two of the players (“presumably Germans”) looked up in surprise.  The organizer lowered his voice and added “And I don’t think they’re expecting it.”

I could never get the Central Powers pieces. Everything else was no problem unless you count “Cromwell ???” whatever it was called.

TT was based out of Tulsa, OK coincedentally HBG is from Tulsa, OK. I’ve always wondered if Coach had anything to do with them.

HBG Germany still has some old TT singles but the cost to ship plus the fact thier sold as singles rather than sets of runners makes me not want them as much.

Joke of course.

The most underrated naval commander was Raymond Spruance, who assumed command at the Battle of Midway following the damage to the Yorktown, and commanded at the Battle of the Philippine Sea in June of 1944.  Overshadowed by Halsey, he never would have fallen for the Japanese carrier lure at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

As for underrated battles, probably the most decisive underrated battle was fought prior to WW2 starting, between the Japanese and the Russians at Nomohan/Khalkin-Gol on the northeastern border of Manchuria.  The Japanese decided after their shattering defeat by the Russians that it would be safer to attack south for resources to sustain the China war than to attack the Soviet Union.

The other would be the campaign to isolate Rabaul from August of 1942 through February of 1944, which aside from costing the Japanese heavily in irreplaceable warships and transports, also essentially destroyed their carrier air power far more thoroughly than the losses at Midway.

Lastly for simple unbelievable guts and determination, the low-level attack by B-24 Liberators on the Ploesti oil refineries on August 1, 1943.

Thank you Flanshman. FINALLY, someone who speaks out against the Soviets atrocities. 21 million murdered in Russia alone. Their “labor camps” people rarely returned from. When The Soviets began raping and murdering axis refugees after the war, American soldiers happened to be present. At first, when out soldiers tried to stop it, the Russians turned their weapons on us. Finally, the soldiers began opening fire into the air and a Soviet commander had it stopped.

To save face in front of us, that commander had a number of his men hung on the spot.

I do however disagree that the holocaust interfered with the war effort on a significant. My backbone to this opinion being that many camps were bieng used as slave labor for profiteers. Inmates were helping not only the manufacturing of war goods such as clothing, shells and aircraft, they were also used in other companies such as Germanys main porcelain concern.

Suprisingly, Himmler actually suggested that skilled workers be fed and housed better but this was not really followed.

That’s pretty sweet,I’m going to Russia to see about digging up a T34 and bringing it home. :wink: